[Fedora-legal-list] Re: license-tag purpose/goal (Was: Re: SPDX Statistics - R.U.R. edition)

2024-01-17 Thread Richard Fontana
On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 5:57 PM Mark Wielaard wrote: > > > I have no attachment to RPM-style > > > license tags, though Red Hat finds them marginally useful for some > > > purposes. > > > > What are the purposes for which Red Hat finds the spec license tags > > useful? > > I am still interested i

[Fedora-legal-list] Re: IBM non-free patent notice (Was: Re: SPDX Statistics - R.U.R. edition)

2024-01-17 Thread Richard Fontana
On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 6:15 PM Mark Wielaard wrote: > > Hi Richard, > > On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 08:07:02PM +0100, Mark Wielaard wrote: > > On Mon, 2023-09-18 at 20:47 -0400, Richard Fontana wrote: > > > While the Sun RPC problem *may* have been excised from glibc, just > > > last year we found an

[Fedora-legal-list] Re: When can license notices be removed or not (Was: Re: SPDX Statistics - R.U.R. edition)

2024-01-17 Thread Richard Fontana
On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 6:34 PM Mark Wielaard wrote: > Although I don't like the advice I am interested when such license > notices can be removed. That would make some discussions about whether > or not to include extra tags/expressions easier (if it is possible to > just remove the notice, then

[Fedora-legal-list] Re: Using the GPL as MPL Secondary license (Was: [Fedora-legal-list] Re: SPDX Statistics - R.U.R. edition)

2024-01-17 Thread Richard Fontana
On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 6:57 PM Mark Wielaard wrote: > > Hi Richard, > > On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 08:07:02PM +0100, Mark Wielaard wrote: > > On Mon, 2023-09-18 at 20:47 -0400, Richard Fontana wrote: > > > On Sun, Sep 17, 2023 at 11:37 AM Mark Wielaard wrote: > > > > Likewise for valgrind we have e

[Fedora-legal-list] Re: license-tag purpose/goal (Was: Re: SPDX Statistics - R.U.R. edition)

2024-01-17 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 17. 01. 24 v 23:57 Mark Wielaard napsal(a): What are the purposes for which Red Hat finds the spec license tags useful? I am still interested in this History reason. I guess. I recall that 15 years ago, few maintainers I spoke with were proud of design of spec files that everything is in

[Fedora-legal-list] Re: LicenseRef-Fedora-SourceLicenses (Was: Re: SPDX Statistics - R.U.R. edition)

2024-01-17 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 18. 01. 24 v 0:01 Richard Fontana napsal(a): srpm. Kind of like debian/copyright. The advantage is that you then don't have to find some exact (or inexact) match with specific identifiers and that it can be shared with upstream and/or other I would support this idea if we were starting from

[Fedora-legal-list] Using the GPL as MPL Secondary license (Was: Re: SPDX Statistics - R.U.R. edition)

2024-01-17 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Richard, On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 08:07:02PM +0100, Mark Wielaard wrote: > On Mon, 2023-09-18 at 20:47 -0400, Richard Fontana wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 17, 2023 at 11:37 AM Mark Wielaard wrote: > > > Likewise for valgrind we have examples of the above. For example the > > > dhat tool which have a

[Fedora-legal-list] When can license notices be removed or not (Was: [Fedora-legal-list] Re: SPDX Statistics - R.U.R. edition)

2024-01-17 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Richard, On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 08:07:02PM +0100, Mark Wielaard wrote: > On Mon, 2023-09-18 at 20:47 -0400, Richard Fontana wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 17, 2023 at 11:37 AM Mark Wielaard wrote: > > > Something similar is done in glibc. For example several files I > > > contributed to were adapted

[Fedora-legal-list] IBM non-free patent notice (Was: Re: SPDX Statistics - R.U.R. edition)

2024-01-17 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Richard, On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 08:07:02PM +0100, Mark Wielaard wrote: > On Mon, 2023-09-18 at 20:47 -0400, Richard Fontana wrote: > > While the Sun RPC problem *may* have been excised from glibc, just > > last year we found another license in glibc (and at least one other > > package), this t

[Fedora-legal-list] Re: LicenseRef-Fedora-SourceLicenses (Was: Re: SPDX Statistics - R.U.R. edition)

2024-01-17 Thread Richard Fontana
On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 5:47 PM Mark Wielaard wrote: > > Hi Richard, > > Going to chop this discssion into smaller parts. > > On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 08:07:02PM +0100, Mark Wielaard wrote: > > On Mon, 2023-09-18 at 20:47 -0400, Richard Fontana wrote: > > > I think anyone should be free to propose

[Fedora-legal-list] license-tag purpose/goal (Was: Re: SPDX Statistics - R.U.R. edition)

2024-01-17 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Richard, On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 08:07:02PM +0100, Mark Wielaard wrote: > > > Is this really a problem? Could you show an example where an upstream > > > or package maintainer stated in the license tag that the effective > > > license was say "GPLv3+", but it would have been more "correct" to s

[Fedora-legal-list] LicenseRef-Fedora-SourceLicenses (Was: Re: SPDX Statistics - R.U.R. edition)

2024-01-17 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Richard, Going to chop this discssion into smaller parts. On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 08:07:02PM +0100, Mark Wielaard wrote: > On Mon, 2023-09-18 at 20:47 -0400, Richard Fontana wrote: > > I think anyone should be free to propose a new umbrella identifier (in > > SPDX expression format) that would

[Fedora-legal-list] Re: valgrind devel headers license tag (bzip2-1.0.6?)

2024-01-17 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Jilayne, On Sat, 2023-11-25 at 01:49 +0100, Mark Wielaard wrote: > On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 01:18:22PM -0500, Richard Fontana wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 11:36 AM Mark Wielaard > > wrote: > > > On Mon, 2023-11-20 at 09:41 -0500, Richard Fontana wrote: > > > > > > You could propose this