Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL comments from Creative Commons

2009-03-23 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Ulf Möller wrote: > Thinh Nguyen of Creative Commons has posted detailed comments on > the ODbL on the co-ment website. Though I have a lot of time for CC in general, and agree with their general stance that PD is the ideal way to go, I don't really find that a very useful response. I count 20

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Copyright Notice and Year

2009-03-23 Thread Richard Fairhurst
TimSC wrote: > The "safe" move move might be to use the latest date. Now based > on the Office of Public Service Information web page the copyright > year IS the year of first publication My understanding is that this could refer to "first publication of the revised edition" - in other words, t

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Copyright Notice and Year

2009-03-23 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Using the last date is the approach I take for the 1:25,000 provisional/first edition maps I'm collecting. Most don't have a copyright date but luckily I have the excellent book on the 1:25,000 series written by Peter Hellyer which confirms what year a particular map edition/print edition appeared

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL comments from Creative Commons

2009-03-23 Thread John Wilbanks
> From: Richard Fairhurst > Though I have a lot of time for CC in general, and agree with their general > stance that PD is the ideal way to go, I don't really find that a very > useful response. > > I count 20 occurrences of the word "science", "scientists" or similar; eight > of "education" an

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Commentsperiod ODbL license ends tomorrow

2009-03-23 Thread MJ Ray
Henk Hoff wrote: > For those who still have comments that haven't been mentioned, you still > have one day to send them in! > > The commentspage can be found here: http://www.co-ment.net/text/844/ > > We belief, with all your valuable input, the OKFN will release a solid > ODbL version 1.0 I re

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL comments from Creative Commons

2009-03-23 Thread Richard Fairhurst
John Wilbanks wrote: > Software and culture work pretty well for the promotion of > single licenses. But a database of mapping and geo is very different > from a database of biology, chemistry, or physics. And it's even > more different than a database of cultural works. The promotion > of a g

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL comments from Creative Commons

2009-03-23 Thread John Wilbanks
> But open data is much more than just science and education. It's more > than OSM; it's more than maps. The assiduous > how-late-is-my-sodding-train-today people on our town website, for > example, are creating a database that could potentially be licensed > openly. Well put. Then let's op

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL comments from Creative Commons

2009-03-23 Thread Peter Miller
On 23 Mar 2009, at 12:47, John Wilbanks wrote: > >> From: Richard Fairhurst >> Though I have a lot of time for CC in general, and agree with their >> general >> stance that PD is the ideal way to go, I don't really find that a >> very >> useful response. >> >> I count 20 occurrences of the w