[OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-02 Thread Phil Monger
So I was looking through some cycle books, as you do, when I came across this one (i've hosted the images 3rd party and avoided HTML, if they don't work let me know. I had to snap them on the iPhone - so sorry for the lack of a close focus!!) : http://img249.imageshack.us/i/img0002tw.jpg/ It's a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-02 Thread Grant Slater
On 2 June 2010 21:03, Phil Monger phil...@gmail.com wrote: So I was looking through some cycle books, as you do, when I came across this one (i've hosted the images 3rd party and avoided HTML, if they don't work let me know. I had to snap them on the iPhone - so sorry for the lack of a close

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-02 Thread SteveC
The LWG has been working with council on similar infringement cases. I suggest this gets added. As an aside, this is exactly what happened to some of my work a few years ago. On Jun 2, 2010, at 2:03 PM, Phil Monger wrote: So I was looking through some cycle books, as you do, when I came

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-02 Thread SteveC
That's actually a pretty bad way to resolve the issue, since the publisher is liable for damages and you can absolve them of that and make things far worse by individually contacting or publishing these infringements pre-emptively. Unless you have a law degree. Individuals enforcing

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Phil, Phil Monger wrote: It's a new cycle book for London, with routes, etc. Pretty standard fare. The problem? All the maps inside are blatant OSM copies (Mapnik, I assume) with route overlays posted. Now this wouldn't be a problem, obviously, except they are way WAY outside of CC-BY-SA.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-02 Thread Phil Monger
Frederick, I appreciate your view on this. but I must passionately disagree. Collected works is set up to allow multiple sets of data / licenses to operate together under one bound work. For example, a book of collected maps about London could include OSM as CC-BY-SA but in itself, as a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Phil Monger wrote: This is entirely derivative. The maps and route descriptions operate together as *one piece of work* - indeed descriptions of the ways, place names, distances, directions (ect) used in *the text* are taken from *the mapping*. The text couldn't / wouldn't be there

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-02 Thread Phil Monger
Well, Frederik, here is a challenge: -Work out a 10 mile cycle trip or walk around your town / city, taking advantage of sights you want to see, streets you know are good for it, ect. Cycle it once or twice, getting distracted and taking twice as long as needed to take photographs on the way