Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Relicensing, PD, leverage and petitions

2010-07-18 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, John Smith wrote: people deriving from say Yahoo, is that information allowed to become PD? Yes. Contrary to popular belief, Yahoo has never struck any special agreement with OSM. They have evaluated their own terms of service and concluded that tracing off their imagery is generally leg

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Relicensing, PD, leverage and petitions

2010-07-18 Thread John Smith
On 19 July 2010 03:41, Frederik Ramm wrote: > I am happy that OSMF have added the PD option to the relicensing question, > and I will try to convince as many mappers as possible to tick it. It makes > no difference for the legal side of implementing ODbL but I hope that the > Pro-PD outcome will b

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Relicensing, PD, leverage and petitions

2010-07-18 Thread Frederik Ramm
Tim, TimSC wrote: Firstly, the pro-PD people could propose a "strings attached" deal to OSMF as a condition for relicensing their data. After relicensing, the pro-PD people have their leverage watered down by the contributor terms. Speaking as a pro-PD person, I think I am happy enough with

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Relicensing, PD, leverage and petitions

2010-07-18 Thread Simon Ward
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 02:00:30PM +0100, TimSC wrote: > For the conditions for relicensing our individual contribution's, I > propose the following. Each "data object" (either a node, way or > relation) have one or more authors. For each data object, we will > agree to relicense our data as ODbL,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Relicensing, PD, leverage and petitions

2010-07-18 Thread John Smith
On 18 July 2010 23:00, TimSC wrote: > an amicable arrangement. I am not suggesting backmail! After all, the whole > point of PD is that people can do what they want with the data. I fail to see how you can "force" people to dual license as PD, since you even acknowledge that is the point of PD ev

[OSM-legal-talk] Relicensing, PD, leverage and petitions

2010-07-18 Thread TimSC
Hi all, It seems to me mapping contributors can primarily influence in outcome of the relicensing in two ways: their choice relicensing their own contributions in the project and their involvement after the switch. I was considering how those two factors can be used to encourage others to rel