Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Please, consider that more people want to mark even their future ODBl OSM contributions as CC-BY-SA compatible

2012-08-10 Thread Mike Dupont
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Apollinaris Schöll wrote: > They can claim what they want. Even if you sign such a contract it is not > valid. It's called employer and not slave driver. No court will enforce such > a contract. Mr Schöll, I have hear otherwise, first of all if you sign a contact

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Please, consider that more people want to mark even their future ODBl OSM contributions as CC-BY-SA compatible

2012-08-10 Thread Apollinaris Schöll
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Mike Dupont < jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Paul Norman wrote: > > If someone is unable to sign the CTs because they don't hold copyright > over > > their contributions then they'd be unable to legally contribute to OSM

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Please, consider that more people want to mark even their future ODBl OSM contributions as CC-BY-SA compatible

2012-08-10 Thread Mike Dupont
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Paul Norman wrote: > If someone is unable to sign the CTs because they don't hold copyright over > their contributions then they'd be unable to legally contribute to OSM or > any open mapping project regardless of the CTs. > > If someone is not working in a GIS fie

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Please, consider that more people want to mark even their future ODBl OSM contributions as CC-BY-SA compatible

2012-08-10 Thread Mike Dupont
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Pavel Pisa wrote: > even recent discussions about ODBl compatibility with Wikipedia > problems shows that there can be problems or complications > with ODBL only licensed data. +1 This is what has been concerning me for a while. -- James Michael DuPont Member

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Please, consider that more people want to mark even their future ODBl OSM contributions as CC-BY-SA compatible

2012-08-10 Thread Rob Myers
On 08/10/2012 07:25 AM, Mike Dupont wrote: Also since we are on the topic, I think that many people who are in the USA cannot legally sign the CT anyway because the would have to ask the employeer for permission. If you have signed a NDA you might be affected, some companies claim all employees

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] OSMF Board & auto industry / What's the story?

2012-08-10 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 08/10/2012 10:09 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: The ODbL has a clause softening that rule (4.7. b "parallel distribution"), which essentially says that you can distribute DRM-encumbered databases if you offer a non-DRM alternative that is "at least as accessible as the non-restricted" version.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] OSMF Board & auto industry / What's the story?

2012-08-10 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 08/09/2012 11:54 PM, Mike Dupont wrote: On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Phil! Gold wrote: CC-BY-SA is similar in broad terms (you must license the mixed database to the user under CC-BY-SA), but lacks the details more specific to datasets, like the reasonable-format requirement. Can

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Please, consider that more people want to mark even their future ODBl OSM contributions as CC-BY-SA compatible

2012-08-10 Thread Paul Norman
> From: Mike Dupont [mailto:jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com] > Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Please, consider that more people want to > mark even their future ODBl OSM contributions as CC-BY-SA compatible > > Also since we are on the topic, I think that many people who are in the > USA cannot lega