Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Question about copyrighted hiking routes in France

2013-02-21 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Pieren wrote: > First issue : it is the hiking route names themselves. For all of them > created by the FFRP, the names are registered trademarks and cannot be > used without permission (see question below). Second issue : the > routes themselves are copyrighted.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License question, user clicking on map

2013-02-21 Thread Alex Barth
I think all of these use cases should be ok and we should adjust the community guide lines to clarify that ODbL's share alike clause shouldn't kick in here. On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Olov McKie wrote: > Hello all! > > I have a few usecases for OSM where I do not know if I can use it or n

[OSM-legal-talk] License question, user clicking on map

2013-02-21 Thread Olov McKie
Hello all! I have a few usecases for OSM where I do not know if I can use it or not. I work for a library where we are building a new version of an application to handle all sort of collections, for example books, letters, images, music sheets, etc. The application will store metadata and digit

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Question about copyrighted hiking routes in France

2013-02-21 Thread Eric SIBERT
This point has been long discussed on our local list. What you see on the ground is the trail markers. One problem is that the markers are also copyrighted (the colours and shapes) like a logo. Of course, if you put the McDonalds logo on OSM maps, McDo will be happy for the free ads and maps are n

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Question about copyrighted hiking routes in France

2013-02-21 Thread Paul Norman
[reordered to place copyright matters together] > From: Pieren [mailto:pier...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 9:26 AM > To: Licensing and other legal discussions. > Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Question about copyrighted hiking routes > in France > > Again, you have to understand

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Question about copyrighted hiking routes in France

2013-02-21 Thread Pieren
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Paul Norman wrote: > I cannot see that indicating that there are signs with a particular text on > the ground is infringing their trademark. I'd expect most name=* values on > POIs in OSM to be a trademark (although not necessarily registered). I've > tagged Coca-

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Question about copyrighted hiking routes in France

2013-02-21 Thread Paul Norman
> From: Pieren [mailto:pier...@gmail.com] > Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] Question about copyrighted hiking routes in > France > > Hi all, > > I'm submitting here a question about the legality of keeping French long > hiking routes called "GR" or "GRP" or "PR" in OSM. All these routes are > very wel

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Question about copyrighted hiking routes in France

2013-02-21 Thread Nick Whitelegg
IANAL but just a thought... is it legal anyway to copyright route references? That is what the GRs appear to me to be to my eyes. Can the Department of Transport copyright the reference "M25" in the uk and prohibit its use in all other publications? Nick -Pieren wrote: - To: legal-ta

[OSM-legal-talk] Question about copyrighted hiking routes in France

2013-02-21 Thread Pieren
Hi all, I'm submitting here a question about the legality of keeping French long hiking routes called "GR" or "GRP" or "PR" in OSM. All these routes are very well known, have sign posts and references on the ground, e.g. the "GR20" in Corsica (but many are still missing or very incomplete in OSM)