Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contents Licence for OSM Data

2014-11-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-11-02 23:11 GMT+01:00 Alex Barth : > We have no significant third party ODbL data releases due to OSM share > alike to show for Actually the Italian Government has designed their open data license (IODL) to be compatible with OdbL: http://www.dati.gov.it/content/italian-open-data-license-d

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-11-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-11-03 0:17 GMT+01:00 Alex Barth : > 2014-10-29 20:56 GMT+01:00 Alex Barth : >> >>> Updated: >>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Open_Data_License%2FGeocoding_-_Guideline&diff=1102233&oldid=1076215 >>> >>> >> wouldn't it make more sense to come to a conclusion here before updat

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-11-03 Thread Alex Barth
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > my bad, sorry for the confusion, my comment was referring to the following > edit, which was 4 minutes later: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Open_Data_License/Geocoding_-_Guideline&diff=next&oldid=1102233 > Got i

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contents Licence for OSM Data

2014-11-03 Thread Alex Barth
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Rob Myers wrote: > > We have no significant third party ODbL data releases due to OSM > > share alike to show for, > > Then clearly OMS should have stuck with BY-SA for the database, as > that did gain third party data releases. Did it? I'm not sure what point yo

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-11-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-11-03 14:43 GMT+01:00 Alex Barth : > Got it, yes. Databases of items of Produced Work aren't Derivative > Databases per 4.5b. > there is no indication in the ODbL that using a database of addresses and an OSM db to create a database of coordinates has something to do with a "produced work"

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contents Licence for OSM Data

2014-11-03 Thread Alex Barth
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 5:09 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > We have no significant third party ODbL data releases due to OSM share >> alike to show for > > > > Actually the Italian Government has designed their open data license > (IODL) to be compatible with OdbL: > http://www.dati.gov.it/conte

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-11-03 Thread Alex Barth
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > where in one of the first paragraphs there is this unproven claim: > > " > > Geocoding Results are a Produced Work by the definition of the ODbL > (section 1.): > > “Produced Work” – a work (such as an image, audiovisual material, text,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-11-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-11-03 15:05 GMT+01:00 Alex Barth : > On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer < > dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> where in one of the first paragraphs there is this unproven claim: >> >> " >> >> Geocoding Results are a Produced Work by the definition of the ODbL >> (section 1.)

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-11-03 Thread Alex Barth
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Let's presume we all followed this reading, then when would something > actually fall under the definition of "derivative" database? Why would we > still be writing to legal talk instead of using the whole OSM db as a > produced work -