Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Proposed "Metadata"-Guideline

2015-10-09 Thread Simon Poole
For those readers that are not well versed with wikis, I just wanted to point out that some points have been raised on the discussion page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_Metadata_Guideline I personally would prefer if feedback was given here, but obviously using the discussion

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Proposed "Metadata"-Guideline

2015-10-09 Thread Simon Poole
Could we please get back on topic? Neither the pros and cons of share-alike, nor use cases in which the data is not publicly used, nor alternative licensing schemes, nor mumbo-jumbo from conference sessions is the subject of this discussion. Please feel free to discuss any of the above in separ

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Proposed "Metadata"-Guideline

2015-10-09 Thread Steve Coast
> On Oct 9, 2015, at 3:22 PM, Alex Barth wrote: > On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Steve Coast > wrote: > If you want all these rights, you can just pick up the phone and pay HERE or > TomTom for them, they’d love to hear from you. > > What's more interesting than se

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Proposed "Metadata"-Guideline

2015-10-09 Thread Alex Barth
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Steve Coast wrote: > If you want all these rights, you can just pick up the phone and pay HERE > or TomTom for them, they’d love to hear from you. What's more interesting than sending people to HERE and TomTom is making them contributors to OpenStreetMap, no? __

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Proposed "Metadata"-Guideline

2015-10-09 Thread Tom Lee
Allow me to gently suggest that we try to keep this thread grounded in concrete concerns. I am always up for some flag-waving about sharealike versus PD, but I think it would be best housed in a new thread or the talk list (it's a general enough principle that the larger community deserves to weigh

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Proposed "Metadata"-Guideline

2015-10-09 Thread Rob Myers
On 2015-10-09 11:56, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 11:49 PM, Mr. Stace D Maples wrote: One other question, and I’m just curious, not trying to start a flame war. Isn’t some of the data in OSM from public domain datasets? If so, what is the OSM rationale for placing a more r

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Proposed "Metadata"-Guideline

2015-10-09 Thread Steve Coast
I designed a license concept that’s relevant as an alternative way of thinking about this: http://stevecoast.com/2015/09/30/license-ascent/ On a different note: It’s a false dichotomy to compare OSM and Public Domain, it’s really about comparing buying a proprietary map (which the OP di

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Proposed "Metadata"-Guideline

2015-10-09 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 11:49 PM, Mr. Stace D Maples < stacemap...@stanford.edu> wrote: > One other question, and I’m just curious, not trying to start a flame war. > Isn’t some of the data in OSM from public domain datasets? If so, what is > the OSM rationale for placing a more restrictive licensi

[OSM-legal-talk] Proposed "Metadata"-Guideline

2015-10-09 Thread Mr. Stace D Maples
Hello all, I’m new to this list, but wanted to chime in that I am happy to see this thread of discussion, here. I’ve been supporting research and teaching with geospatial tools for about 15 years (first, at Yale, now at Stanford) and I’d like to chime in from that perspective, since the industry