Re: [OSM-legal-talk] question regarding produced work

2015-11-19 Thread Simon Poole
? there are 4 responses to your mail, at least one with a question that you haven't answered . Am 19.11.2015 um 08:51 schrieb Lars-Daniel Weber: > Three days are gone and still no discussion about this topic. > I think, nobody is really interested in discovering license violations and > pena

[OSM-legal-talk] Interesting ruling by the ECJ

2015-11-19 Thread Simon Poole
For those that do not read weeklyOSM/Wochennotiz (you really should) http://curia.europa.eu/juris/celex.jsf?celex=62014CJ0490&lang1=de&type=TXT&ancre= Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@o

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] question regarding produced work

2015-11-19 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 11/19/2015 08:51 AM, Lars-Daniel Weber wrote: > Three days are gone and still no discussion about this topic. I think that as long as no external sources are used, and there's just a clever preprocessing that runs a couple of spatial analyses on the OSM data, generating other OSM data from

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] question regarding produced work

2015-11-19 Thread Lars-Daniel Weber
Frederik Ramm wrote on Donnerstag, 19. November 2015 um 13:46 Uhr: > > I would have a stronger opinion if it were a case where external data is > mixed with OSM to create an "added value" product - but if someone just > mangles the OSM data a bit, I'm tempted to view that as part of the > rendering

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] question regarding produced work

2015-11-19 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 11/19/2015 04:04 PM, Lars-Daniel Weber wrote: > The guidelines say that you need even to release the steps to create > a derived database (or share the diff or share the database itself). Yes, but the Trivial Transformations guideline[1] explains: "We therefore define a term "trivial tran

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] question regarding produced work

2015-11-19 Thread Tom Lee
Lars, can I ask what you're trying to achieve here? Do you believe the data or processes have value? Are you uncertain how to replicate the transformation steps yourself? If so, I suspect there are a number of people in the community who'd be glad to help figure this out. Given the trivial nature