Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CC Attribution Share Alike License with OSMF exception

2008-10-04 Thread Simon Ward
On Sat, Sep 06, 2008 at 10:35:22AM +1000, Joseph Gentle wrote: > It does seem like a good way for the share-alike supporters to champion free > software while at the same time making sure their 'free' contributions never > end up in the hands of those evil big business. I’m probably one of those s

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CC Attribution Share Alike License with OSMF exception

2008-09-06 Thread Liz
On Sat, 6 Sep 2008, Nic Roets wrote: > The paranoid people are all on this list. Perhaps 100 ? Which leave a good > 49900 who don't really care what the license is. Otherwise we would have > seen a fork long ago. Yep, that's me, complete with healthy level of paranoia. My data is of greater accur

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CC Attribution Share Alike License with OSMF exception

2008-09-06 Thread Nic Roets
The paranoid people are all on this list. Perhaps 100 ? Which leave a good 49900 who don't really care what the license is. Otherwise we would have seen a fork long ago. A few of the normal checks should suffice : 1. The directors should act in the best interest of the community and disclose any p

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CC Attribution Share Alike License with OSMF exception

2008-09-06 Thread Gervase Markham
Frederik Ramm wrote: > People will ask "how do you ensure that OSMF doesn't fall into evil > hands", and you will start to invent boards of directors and boards of > overseers and whatnot, and all these will have to be chosen by some kind > of vote; then you'll have to define who may vote. But t

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CC Attribution Share Alike License with OSMF exception

2008-09-05 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Joseph wrote: "If we go with your proposal, the OSM foundation could authorise future license changes if we find more problems with our new license. I like that idea. Unfortunately, it gives the foundation a lot more work to do." I assure everyone the license will need to be changed again at some

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CC Attribution Share Alike License with OSMF exception

2008-09-05 Thread Joseph Gentle
Its a compromise; a compromise which I think the purists on this list (most of us) will disagree with. It does seem like a good way for the share-alike supporters to champion free software while at the same time making sure their 'free' contributions never end up in the hands of those evil big bus

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CC Attribution Share Alike License with OSMF exception

2008-09-05 Thread Brian Quinion
>> OK, so either not OSMF (but a group setup for the purpose) or OSMF >> with better protections for who can be a board member. How about a >> group made up of interested parties with a minimum amount of data >> submitted to OSM... :-) > See, you're starting to walk the path towards non-freedom a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CC Attribution Share Alike License with OSMF exception

2008-09-05 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Brian Quinion wrote: > OK, so either not OSMF (but a group setup for the purpose) or OSMF > with better protections for who can be a board member. How about a > group made up of interested parties with a minimum amount of data > submitted to OSM... :-) See, you're starting to walk the path t

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CC Attribution Share Alike License with OSMF exception

2008-09-05 Thread Gervase Markham
Brian Quinion wrote: > So my questions is this: would it be possible for the contributors to > OSM (in addition to releasing the data as CC-By-SA) to also grant a > license to the OSMF to use the data for ANY purpose? It would be possible for contributors to, certainly. Whether they would all wa

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CC Attribution Share Alike License with OSMF exception

2008-09-05 Thread Michael Collinson
At 01:59 PM 9/5/2008, Albertas Agejevas wrote: >On Fri, Sep 05, 2008 at 12:07:28PM +0100, Brian Quinion wrote: > > Been reading all the discussions for a while with growing frustration. > > I find my self mostly agreeing with the CC-By-SA license but I do > > wish there was a way to easily provide

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CC Attribution Share Alike License with OSMF exception

2008-09-05 Thread Albertas Agejevas
On Fri, Sep 05, 2008 at 12:07:28PM +0100, Brian Quinion wrote: > Been reading all the discussions for a while with growing frustration. > I find my self mostly agreeing with the CC-By-SA license but I do > wish there was a way to easily provide exceptions to those > organisations wishing to make g

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CC Attribution Share Alike License with OSMF exception

2008-09-05 Thread Brian Quinion
OK, so either not OSMF (but a group setup for the purpose) or OSMF with better protections for who can be a board member. How about a group made up of interested parties with a minimum amount of data submitted to OSM... :-) Or is the basic idea flawed as well? -- Brian On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 12

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CC Attribution Share Alike License with OSMF exception

2008-09-05 Thread 80n
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Brian Quinion < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Been reading all the discussions for a while with growing frustration. > I find my self mostly agreeing with the CC-By-SA license but I do > wish there was a way to easily provide exceptions to those > organisati