Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Cloudmade

2008-10-05 Thread Nick Black
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Grant Slater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nick Black wrote: >> >> ... Right now we're looking into a ticketing system that we can use >> to track emails to make sure this sort of thing doesn't happen again. >> So if anyone knows a good free as in speech (we're happy

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Cloudmade

2008-10-05 Thread Grant Slater
Nick Black wrote: > ... Right now we're looking into a ticketing system that we can use > to track emails to make sure this sort of thing doesn't happen again. > So if anyone knows a good free as in speech (we're happy to pay, but > we'd rather be able to hack at the source code if needed) ticketin

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Cloudmade

2008-10-05 Thread Nick Black
Adrian and legal list, I'm writing this email in my position as a founder and employee of CloudMade. On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Adrian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm sort of taking offence at your implied suggestion that there is one >> group of people who "give" to the project and anoth

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Cloudmade

2008-10-03 Thread Adrian
> I'm sort of taking offence at your implied suggestion that there is one > group of people who "give" to the project and another group, among whom > you seem to count Cloudmade and would probably also count Geofabrik, of > people who "take" from the project to make a business. I'm sorry to hav

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Cloudmade

2008-10-03 Thread Frederik Ramm
Adrian, Adrian wrote: >> I could tell you about our plans for ice cream gloves but I think this >> does it better: > > The difference being that you are planning on trading off of the back of > the goodwill of many other people. I'm not associated with Cloudmade in any way, and don't know any

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Cloudmade

2008-10-03 Thread SteveC
On 3 Oct 2008, at 14:39, Adrian wrote: >> I could tell you about our plans for ice cream gloves but I think >> this >> does it better: > > The difference being that you are planning on trading off of the > back of > the goodwill of many other people. I don't think it is unreasonable > for th

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Cloudmade

2008-10-03 Thread Adrian
> Another example: I could take a planet dump, make a derivated product, and > *not* release it into the public. You could then buy it from me, and you > would *not* be bound to release it to the public for free. You could, though, > possibly lowering the possibilities of me selling a second cop