Re: [OSM-legal-talk] How to deal with CC 2.0 data imports? Proposal Dual licensing of data under odbl-1.0

2010-10-30 Thread Mike Dupont
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Simon Ward wrote: > In any case, if I host my data elsewhere, and then “import” it into > OpenStreetMap, do I get around this, or am I just being too hopeful? yes, setup a company in the bahamas that holds all intellectual rights of yours, that company would licen

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] How to deal with CC 2.0 data imports? Proposal Dual licensing of data under odbl-1.0

2010-10-30 Thread Simon Ward
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:28:05AM -0700, Kai Krueger wrote: > There appear to be some interesting thoughts about this in the most recent > LWG meeting minutes ( https://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9g3qjp_89cczk73gk ) > in the Contributor Terms Revision section: > > e.g. > > "If you want to import

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] How to deal with CC 2.0 data imports? Proposal Dual licensing of data under odbl-1.0

2010-10-29 Thread Rob Myers
On 10/29/2010 08:09 PM, Mike Dupont wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Kai Krueger wrote: "If you want to import data copyrighted by others or where they are exerting a copyright over data that you have derived by a method such as tracing, the copyright should be compatible with ODbL 1.0.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] How to deal with CC 2.0 data imports? Proposal Dual licensing of data under odbl-1.0

2010-10-29 Thread Mike Dupont
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Kai Krueger wrote: > "If you want to import data copyrighted by others or where they are exerting > a copyright over data that you have derived by a method such as tracing, the > copyright should be compatible with ODbL 1.0.  You do not need to guarantee > that the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] How to deal with CC 2.0 data imports? Proposal Dual licensing of data under odbl-1.0

2010-10-29 Thread John Smith
On 30 October 2010 04:28, Kai Krueger wrote: > There appear to be some interesting thoughts about this in the most recent > LWG meeting minutes ( https://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9g3qjp_89cczk73gk ) > in the Contributor Terms Revision section: Until recently there was no indication of any kind o

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] How to deal with CC 2.0 data imports? Proposal Dual licensing of data under odbl-1.0

2010-10-29 Thread John Smith
On 30 October 2010 03:56, Mike Dupont wrote: > I see, and there is no way around this? So everyone in the world > become bound by the contributor terms? does anything think this is > even feasible? Those trying to push OSM towards PD think it's feasible and are doing their utmost to push their a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] How to deal with CC 2.0 data imports? Proposal Dual licensing of data under odbl-1.0

2010-10-29 Thread Kai Krueger
JohnSmitty wrote: > > That may not be enough, as they would have to agree to allow OSM to > relicense it in future, not just agree to ODBL: > There appear to be some interesting thoughts about this in the most recent LWG meeting minutes ( https://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9g3qjp_89cczk73gk ) i

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] How to deal with CC 2.0 data imports? Proposal Dual licensing of data under odbl-1.0

2010-10-29 Thread Mike Dupont
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 7:25 PM, John Smith wrote: > On 30 October 2010 00:07, Mike  Dupont wrote: >> I have written to the people who donated the data to dual license it >> under the oodbl as well as under the creative commons. >> http://www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/summary/ > > That ma

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] How to deal with CC 2.0 data imports? Proposal Dual licensing of data under odbl-1.0

2010-10-29 Thread John Smith
On 30 October 2010 00:07, Mike Dupont wrote: > I have written to the people who donated the data to dual license it > under the oodbl as well as under the creative commons. > http://www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/summary/ That may not be enough, as they would have to agree to allow OSM to

[OSM-legal-talk] How to deal with CC 2.0 data imports? Proposal Dual licensing of data under odbl-1.0

2010-10-29 Thread Mike Dupont
Hi, I have been reading more about how to deal with the licenses of Albania and Kosovo data we have been acquiring. I must admit, I am still skeptical about this new license, but after re-reading it a few times, it might work. The basic idea is that it is codifying what is implicit in copyright l