Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal requirements of permissions to import into OSM

2015-07-28 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 07/29/2015 12:39 AM, Christoph Donges wrote: 1. ask for a public domain dedication I think it's funny to ask for that which OSM is unwilling to give. Maybe you're misunderstanding. A PD dedication isn't a requirement for adding data to OSM, but it is the easiest way to go because

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal requirements of permissions to import into OSM

2015-07-28 Thread Tom Lee
Well, I'll withdraw the suggestion; I wasn't party to those conversations and I'm finding them to be essentially unsearchable due to the license transition conversations around CC-BY-SA. I will note that CC itself soft-pedaled the significance of the attribution change in 4:

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal requirements of permissions to import into OSM

2015-07-28 Thread Christoph Donges
1. ask for a public domain dedication I think it's funny to ask for that which OSM is unwilling to give. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal requirements of permissions to import into OSM

2015-07-27 Thread Tom Lee
Having spent a lot of time doing work like this at the Sunlight Foundation, I will suggest keeping things as simple as they can be, as Simon suggests. Efforts like opendatacommons.org are admirable, but for an overwhelmed or disengaged government, they still offer more detail than is desirable.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal requirements of permissions to import into OSM

2015-07-27 Thread Paul Norman
On 7/27/2015 9:00 AM, Tom Lee wrote: 3. if they balk at this, ask for an attribution license, most likely a pre-4.0 version of CC-BY Pre-4.0 CC BY attribute requirements are clearly incompatible with common attribution for multi-source maps, practices of data consumers (including Mapbox), and

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal requirements of permissions to import into OSM

2015-07-26 Thread Simon Poole
We've typically never made a fuss about formalities (aka in triplicate and signed with blood :-)) and as long as it is clear who is giving the permission and in which role, I suspect we would be happy with an e-mail version (extra points if digitally signed). Simon signature.asc Description:

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal requirements of permissions to import into OSM

2015-07-24 Thread Simon Poole
I suspect the problem is not quite as large as you think it might be. If they want to use a public licence, while it may not be actually explicitly said anywhere, CC0 or the PDDL are naturally totally acceptable. For one offs/special permission I would suggest using

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal requirements of permissions to import into OSM

2015-07-24 Thread Clifford Snow
I wonder if pointing the local governments to http://opendatacommons.org/ might be a good start. I've been considering providing some cities I've contact with a link to Open Data Commons to help them make the right decision. Clifford On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Svavar Kjarrval

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal requirements of permissions to import into OSM

2015-07-24 Thread Svavar Kjarrval
Thanks for the response and the references. Maybe it's not as big as I think it is. While I would personally prefer the pure public domain or anything closest to it, the entities are sometimes reluctant to go that far. Some might accept CC0 (and PDDL wouldn't be valid) but there are some which