Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal status of certain mapping activities

2015-09-18 Thread Simon Poole
Maybe I should comment on this before we go to far astray. The country which Lukas is referring to just happens to have no database protection statutes specifically no sui generis database protection. Given that the EU only offers such protection to databases from foreign entities if the country

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal status of certain mapping activities

2015-09-18 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 09/18/2015 02:11 PM, Simone Aliprandi wrote: > We should better understand the meaning of "substantial portion". What > about a script that extracts systematically single facts > (not-copyrightable) from the database? It is widely accepted that repeatedly extracting non-substantial parts a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal status of certain mapping activities

2015-09-18 Thread Simone Aliprandi
> Frederik's perspective on question 4 seems correct to me. Speaking > imprecisely (by necessity, given national differences on these questions), > IP rights attach to the creative form that expressions of fact take; and, > in the EU, the collective form of those facts when arranged into a > databa

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal status of certain mapping activities

2015-09-17 Thread Tom Lee
Frederik's perspective on question 4 seems correct to me. Speaking imprecisely (by necessity, given national differences on these questions), IP rights attach to the creative form that expressions of fact take; and, in the EU, the collective form of those facts when arranged into a database. The fa

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal status of certain mapping activities

2015-09-16 Thread Paul Norman
On 9/16/2015 6:03 AM, Toggenburger Lukas wrote: Case 1: Is it legal/desired to look up the address of a particular POI on online maps like Bing map (https://www.bing.com/maps/), search.ch (http://map.search.ch), Google Maps (https://www.google.ch/maps/) or Swiss cantonal geoportals to determin

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal status of certain mapping activities

2015-09-16 Thread Frederik Ramm
Lukas, IMHO a single fact is not copyrightable so if you take details about the POI from the web site run by the POI operator themselves, you should be fine. However if you take the same information from a collection (your difference between 4 and 1), then the maintainer of that collection cou

[OSM-legal-talk] Legal status of certain mapping activities

2015-09-16 Thread Toggenburger Lukas
Dear list I am indirectly involved in the following situation: In the context of a research project a team wants to add a list of POIs (libraries) to the OSM database. The names of the libraries, their postal addresses, the address of the websites, and further details of the libraries are known