Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Nearmap vs CTs: any progress?

2010-11-18 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: Anthony o...@... writes: However, this part remains: Subject to Section 3 and 4 below, You hereby grant to OSMF and any party that receives Your Contents a worldwide, royalty-free, non-exclusive, perpetual, irrevocable licence

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Nearmap vs CTs: any progress?

2010-11-18 Thread Ed Avis
Anthony o...@... writes: Other People hold rights in Their Contents, not in Your Contents. The Work is derived from Your Contents and Their Contents. Would a definition of Your Contents help clarify that? Yes, it would - although I think that the approach I proposed of 'section A - rights you

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Nearmap vs CTs: any progress?

2010-11-18 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 5:40 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: Other People hold rights in Their Contents, not in Your Contents.  The At least in the case of Nearmap, they hold rights in Your Contents too: You will own all Derived Works that you create. However, you may only distribute Derived

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Nearmap vs CTs: any progress?

2010-11-18 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: Anthony o...@... writes: The way I read it, Your Contents = the material contributed by You, as distinguished from the preexisting material employed in the work So, if I just bulk-uploaded data from somewhere else, the 'Your

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Nearmap vs CTs: any progress?

2010-11-16 Thread Ben Last
It's a summaryhttp://www.google.com.au/search?sourceid=chromeie=UTF-8q=define:+summary, which means that it omits some of the detail. The actual licence is at http://www.nearmap.com/products/community-licence http://www.nearmap.com/products/community-licenceRegards Ben On 17 November 2010

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Nearmap vs CTs: any progress?

2010-11-15 Thread Ben Last
On 15 November 2010 15:33, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: Is that the only way to read the terms? Paragraph 2 merely say that you, the person uploading the data, grant a license to OSMF. Paragraph 2 does not warrant that *no one else* (e.g. Nearmap) might *also* have rights which still need

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Nearmap vs CTs: any progress?

2010-11-15 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: In order to derive data from nearmap.com PhotoMaps, you must agree to our community licence, which says: If you derive information from observing our PhotoMaps, and include that information in a work, you will own that work,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Nearmap vs CTs: any progress?

2010-11-15 Thread Francis Davey
On 15 November 2010 22:47, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: It seems there is an assumption by the authors of the CTs that, as the contributor of data: 1) you own the copyright to that data; and therefore 2) you can, and are willing to, grant an extremely wide licence to OSMF I'm

[OSM-legal-talk] Nearmap vs CTs: any progress?

2010-11-14 Thread Steve Bennett
So, it's been a few months now. Any signs of progress on CTs that would be compatible with data providers like NearMap? Steve ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Nearmap vs CTs: any progress?

2010-11-14 Thread Ben Last
Hi From the nearmap.com side, there have been a couple of emails since the discussion with the LWG, but nothing in the last month. I've been reading the minutes and check the redrafting of the Contributor Terms (