El Miércoles, 20 de Febrero de 2008, SteveC escribió:
> >> And you believe NavTeq and TeleAtlas are also built on a house of
> >> cards?
[...]
> Well I can tell you exactly what they do, their licenses are based on
> the same three things that the ODL is. The Database Directive,
> copyright and con
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 11:08:55PM -0500, John Wilbanks wrote:
> OK, let's say I'm evil. I hire someone to sign and violate the contract,
> then repost. I download the copy that person put online. The contract no
> longer attaches.
So you would put up the Navteq data on your personal website
if
On Feb 20, 2008 10:25 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Quoting SteveC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >> And you believe NavTeq and TeleAtlas are also built on a house of
> cards?
> ?>
> >> Are the Nokia and TomTom due diligence people really that stupid?
>
> > No, but they are big corporations with expe
On 20 Feb 2008, at 10:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Quoting SteveC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> And you believe NavTeq and TeleAtlas are also built on a house of
>> cards?
>>
>> Are the Nokia and TomTom due diligence people really that stupid?
>
> No, but they are big corporations with expensive
Quoting John Wilbanks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> *Maps* may indeed be copyrighted. The data that underlies those maps is
> probably in the public domain...
I view OSM as a three-layer stack WRT copyright:
1. At the bottom are the GPS traces or other data. This is basically
factual data, and so not
On 20 Feb 2008, at 03:05, John Wilbanks wrote:
>
> *Maps* may indeed be copyrighted. The data that underlies those maps
> is
> probably in the public domain...
And you believe NavTeq and TeleAtlas are also built on a house of cards?
Are the Nokia and TomTom due diligence people really that stu
Quoting Iván Sánchez Ortega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> If the database law attaches, you're using a bad law - one that may well
>> be repealed, and has been rebuked even by the EC itself.
>
> Pardon me? When has such a thing taken place?
The EU's report on the effectiveness of the Database Right fou
Here's the link referenced:
http://ec.europa.eu/internal_market/copyright/prot-databases/prot-databases_en.htm
While there's been a lot of challenges as to the efficacy of the sui
generis right, not surprisingly, the industry wants to keep anything it
can in terms of rights. That's the hard thin
El Miércoles, 20 de Febrero de 2008, John Wilbanks escribió:
> OK, now we are at the heart of it.
It seems I'll have to fetch my flamethrower ;-)
> If the database law attaches, you're using a bad law - one that may well
> be repealed, and has been rebuked even by the EC itself.
Pardon me? When
OK, now we are at the heart of it.
If the database law attaches, you're using a bad law - one that may well
be repealed, and has been rebuked even by the EC itself. And it's
uncompiled code - we don't know what "substantial" extraction means, or
what I could do if I downloaded and extracted in
El Miércoles, 20 de Febrero de 2008, John Wilbanks escribió:
> *Maps* may indeed be copyrighted.
Agreed.
> The data that underlies those maps is probably in the public domain...
Agreed, and that's what the Open Data Factual Info License addresses.
*But* when you put together a large enough quan
--
John - this is ridiculous. Of course we can slap a new license on our
map data to better protect it.
Why do people persist with this notion that maps cannot be copyrighted?
The Ordnance Survey has won a number of court cases.
Aled.
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Ordnance Survey data carries a "crown copyri
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