"Pieren" pier...@gmail.com wrote on 21/02/2013 at 23:22:54 +1100
subject "[OSM-legal-talk] Question about copyrighted hiking routes in France" :
> I'm submitting here a question about the legality of keeping French
> long hiking routes called "GR" or "
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Nick Whitelegg
wrote:
> More philosophically the idea of someone claiming copyright on walking
> routes seems completely at odds with the nature of countryside walking,
> which to my mind has similar free and open values to open source software
> and data (the land
literary, dramatic, musical or
artistic works; sound recordings, films or broadcasts; and the typographical
arrangement of published editions". French law appears to have no such
limitation.
cheers
Richard
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On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Paul Norman wrote:
> [reordered to place copyright matters together]
>> From: Pieren [mailto:pier...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 9:26 AM
>> To: Licensing and other legal discussions.
>> Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk]
>> Second issue : it is maybe a more specific French issue here because
>> the "routes" themselves can be copyrighted when they are considered as
>> "original work". A famous case confirmed this with the IGN (publishing
>> the FFRP maps) sueing a guidebook editor [5] and confirmed by the
>> highest
-Steve Bennett wrote: -
To: "Licensing and other legal discussions."
From: Steve Bennett
Date: 22/02/2013 03:12AM
Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Question about copyrighted hiking routes in
France
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Pieren wrote:
> First issue : it
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 4:11 AM, Steve Bennett wrote:
> Are they aware that all the data has been created independently, by
> surveying the trail - not by actually copying their data?
I think you mix two things : the physical trails, paths which are not
copyrighted and not discussed here. And the
On what basis do they claim ownership of the routes, exactly? As I
understand it, many of these routes link up lots of little trails that
had been around for decades. How did copyright get transferred from
the people who created the trails to the FFRP? Or do they claim
ownership only over new sect
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Pieren wrote:
> First issue : it is the hiking route names themselves. For all of them
> created by the FFRP, the names are registered trademarks and cannot be
> used without permission (see question below). Second issue : the
> routes themselves are copyrighted.
This point has been long discussed on our local list. What you see on
the ground is the trail markers. One problem is that the markers are
also copyrighted (the colours and shapes) like a logo. Of course, if
you put the McDonalds logo on OSM maps, McDo will be happy for the
free ads and maps are n
[reordered to place copyright matters together]
> From: Pieren [mailto:pier...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 9:26 AM
> To: Licensing and other legal discussions.
> Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Question about copyrighted hiking routes
> in France
>
> Again, y
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Paul Norman wrote:
> I cannot see that indicating that there are signs with a particular text on
> the ground is infringing their trademark. I'd expect most name=* values on
> POIs in OSM to be a trademark (although not necessarily registered). I've
> tagged Coca-
> From: Pieren [mailto:pier...@gmail.com]
> Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] Question about copyrighted hiking routes in
> France
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm submitting here a question about the legality of keeping French long
> hiking routes called "GR" or "GRP&q
To: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org
From: Pieren
Date: 21/02/2013 12:24PM
Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] Question about copyrighted hiking routes in France
Hi all,
I'm submitting here a question about the legality of keeping French
long hiking routes called "GR" or "GRP" or &quo
Hi all,
I'm submitting here a question about the legality of keeping French
long hiking routes called "GR" or "GRP" or "PR" in OSM. All these
routes are very well known, have sign posts and references on the
ground, e.g. the "GR20" in Corsica (but many are still missing or very
incomplete in OSM)
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