Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing question

2019-08-05 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Tuesday 06 August 2019, Kathleen Lu via legal-talk wrote: > > If a user misuses a produced work, that is the fault of the user > > (and > > perhaps a breach of the license by the user), not the work producer. > I don't this is a slippery slope, but rather a principled decision. > But the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing question

2019-08-05 Thread Kathleen Lu via legal-talk
The produced work guideline goes down the slippery slope of trying to > define a produced work though the intention of the creator. This was > always a highly questionable approach. Not only because intention in > general is hard to determine objectively but also because the ODbL does > not

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing question

2019-08-02 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Friday 02 August 2019, Tom Lee via legal-talk wrote: > [...] If you > replace "pixels" with "triangles", the exact same thing can be said > of the 3D objects being rendered here for use by the Flight Gear > simulator. And if you replace 'pixel' with node the exact same thing can be said about

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing question

2019-08-02 Thread Tom Lee via legal-talk
> if the way you use the data is more in a database-like fashion or more in the form of a finished product ready for human consumption This raises more questions, doesn't it? I think everyone agrees that a map contained by a PNG file is a produced work. But such a file is merely a collection of

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing question

2019-08-02 Thread Christoph Hormann
To avoid you drawing the wrong conclusions based on the (rather abstract) explanations made by others - based on a quick look at the documentation on http://wiki.flightgear.org/Osm2city.py https://osm2city.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ that tool seems mainly a geometry data conversion program for

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing question

2019-08-02 Thread Kathleen Lu via legal-talk
Agreed, my opinion is that generally a scenery generating program should be considered a produced work. It's possible the program reads from a derived database, depending on whether map features were added, but that *database* could be made available under ODbL. The program being GPL shouldn't

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing question

2019-08-01 Thread merspieler
I'd consider the work a produced work. I will apply 4.3. ODbL. Thank you for your help. newsgr...@pirschkarte.de: > Considering the Produced Work - Guideline: Is the result of Osm2city in > your opinion a product or a derived database? > > If it is a product, then you can choose your own

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing question

2019-08-01 Thread newsgroup
Considering the Produced Work - Guideline: Is the result of Osm2city in your opinion a product or a derived database? If it is a product, then you can choose your own license, but you still have comply with the conditions of No. 4.3. ODbL . If it is a derived database then you have to

[OSM-legal-talk] Licensing question

2019-08-01 Thread merspieler
Hello, I've got a question about licensing. I'm using a program called Osm2city [1] that generates scenery for the flight gear flight simulator(FGFS) [2]. To be on the safe side, I've currently released the results under the WTFPL which isn't a big deal for me but FGFS is GPL2 only and it's