Object Explorer (was Re: Leo and Eve)

2016-05-16 Thread 'Terry Brown' via leo-editor
On Mon, 16 May 2016 06:02:45 -0700 (PDT) john lunzer wrote: > A common feature in Pharo as well as Spyder and the pudb python > debugger is the object explorer. This I believe is a useful pillar of > the live coding environment. https://github.com/leo-editor/snippets/blob/master/introspect.py m

Re: Leo and Eve

2016-05-16 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi, On 16/05/16 12:06, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote: Hi, It's really nice to have this conversation. Long time ago I talked about Leo and computers as "cognitive devices" for (de)construction adn how it makes for files what Smalltalk mades for objects. I meant "Long time ago I talk

Re: Leo and Eve

2016-05-16 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi, It's really nice to have this conversation. Long time ago I talked about Leo and computers as "cognitive devices" for (de)construction adn how it makes for files what Smalltalk mades for objects. But at that time I hadn't the proper language and examples for a better discourse. Putting th

Re: Leo and Eve

2016-05-16 Thread john lunzer
Most of the the time I use pudb as a trace. A stack trace widget window is part of the default view of the program. Secondly I use it because I can then very easily go into the object browser and start viewing the namespace with a tree (which as a Leo user is very comfortable). Thirdly I use it

Re: Leo and Eve

2016-05-16 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:49 AM, john lunzer wrote: > It is a true shame that pudb is non-windows only. > ​ Perhaps there is a workaround. ​ > I wasn't exactly implying that pudb itself should be integrated, just that > namespace object browsers are an integral part of "live coding". Having an

Re: Leo and Eve

2016-05-16 Thread john lunzer
It is a true shame that pudb is non-windows only. I wasn't exactly implying that pudb itself should be integrated, just that namespace object browsers are an integral part of "live coding". Having an object that you created that presented to you to browse and manipulate visually gives a tangible

Re: Leo and Eve

2016-05-16 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Monday, May 16, 2016 at 10:01:49 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 8:02 AM, john lunzer wrote: > >> >> A common feature in Pharo as well as Spyder and the pudb python debugger >> is the object explorer. This I believe is a useful pillar of the live >> coding environm

Re: Leo and Eve

2016-05-16 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 8:02 AM, john lunzer wrote: > > A common feature in Pharo as well as Spyder and the pudb python debugger > is the object explorer. This I believe is a useful pillar of the live > coding environment. > ​pudb is not part of the Anaconda distros, but pip2/3 install pudb work

Re: Leo and Eve

2016-05-16 Thread john lunzer
I realize this was not aimed at me, but this direction you speak of *is* exciting. I already use Leo + IPython to perform some form of "live coding", even manipulating Leo which is helpful in understanding Leo. But I mainly perform all of that interaction from the IPython console. It appears t

Re: Leo and Eve

2016-05-16 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Friday, May 13, 2016 at 10:17:12 AM UTC-5, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote: > > In my case, when I found Squeak almost 10 years ago I felt it interesting > and empowering for me and my students, but also it imposing to much > pre-existing structure on me, while Leo with its emerging outl

Re: @clean child node content without linebreaks

2016-05-16 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 3:43 AM, dartNNN wrote: > [I have small experience with leo] > I use @clean node and create child node. Child node content surrounded by > line breaks in resulting file. Is it possible to eliminate line breaks? > ​Not with @clean. @nosent will also give you line break.

@clean child node content without linebreaks

2016-05-16 Thread dartNNN
[I have small experience with leo] I use @clean node and create child node. Child node content surrounded by line breaks in resulting file. Is it possible to eliminate line breaks? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To unsubscribe fr

Theme Problems

2016-05-16 Thread Mike Busch
TL;DR Despite going over the instructions several times and also deleting my .leo directory once, themes don't work for me (Mac OS 10.11). I just started grabbed the latest code from GitHub and started using Leo and of course the first thing I have to do is figure out how to get a Zenburn-like

Re: Ipython not working after recent update

2016-05-16 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 5:34 AM, Fidel N wrote: > Just faced the same problem, the following solved it for me: > >> > pip install jupyter > > I didn > ​​ > t know I needed to install jupyter in order to use ipython. > > Plus, I used "iptest" as they suggest in ipython docs ( > https://ipython.org

Re: Ipython not working after recent update

2016-05-16 Thread Fidel N
Just faced the same problem, the following solved it for me: > pip install jupyter I didnt know I needed to install jupyter in order to use ipython. Plus, I used "iptest" as they suggest in ipython docs (https://ipython.org/ipython-doc/2/install/install.html) and it suggested me to install som