Re: Glossary and index [was: @root must disappear]

2010-08-15 Thread taa, Leo Newbie
Just trying to help. :D I've been trying to use the glossary and index often so have a vested interest in seeing the glossary/index issues you've raised resolved. I asked a related question on the Sphinx-dev mailing list about a week ago. No reply yet so I thought I'd take a stab at it. I think I b

Re: Glossary and index [was: @root must disappear]

2010-08-14 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:13 PM, taa, Leo Newbie wrote: > Based on my interpretation of > http://sphinx.pocoo.org/markup/para.html#glossary > and the section, "New in version 0.6", the easy part to make this > happen is to remove the :sorted: flag. Then the hard part is manually > re-ordering t

Re: Glossary and index [was: @root must disappear]

2010-08-13 Thread taa, Leo Newbie
About the glossary Terry>I think it would be more helpful if [the glossary] didn't start Terry>with all those @ entries - no doubt alphabetical order is Terry>working against us there. Edward>Please, let's all be clear that I want this to happen too. Edward>But I don't know how to do this. I

Re: @root must disappear

2010-08-09 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 11:54 PM, ne1uno wrote: > let me hasten to add, I am a strong believer in the insights > that I assume led to the creation of the original  tangle/untangle > concepts, that is > keeping the docs with the code, now seen in a lighter form in doxygen, > javadoc, eudoc and othe

Re: @root must disappear

2010-08-08 Thread ne1uno
On Aug 6, 9:05 pm, "Edward K. Ream" wrote: > The great collapse in complexity has taken away almost all the blah, > blah, blah of LP (Literate programming). > > Gone are discussions of noweb, CWEB, LaTeX. Leo still supports these > languages, but it does so gracefully, without making a big deal a

Re: @root must disappear

2010-08-08 Thread ne1uno
On Aug 6, 9:05 pm, "Edward K. Ream" wrote: > On Aug 6, 5:18 pm, "Edward K. Ream" wrote: > > > On my bicycle ride today I had a "road to Damascus" moment: It is > > time to kill @root, or at least send to it the attic, there to be quickly > > forgotten. > > The great collapse in complexity has

Re: Glossary and index [was: @root must disappear]

2010-08-08 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 4:28 AM, taa, Leo Newbie wrote: > Terry>I think it would be more helpful if [the glossary] didn't start > Terry>  with all those @ entries - no doubt alphabetical order is > Terry> working against us there. > > +1 Please, let's all be clear that I want this to happen too.

Glossary and index [was: @root must disappear]

2010-08-08 Thread taa, Leo Newbie
Terry>I think it would be more helpful if [the glossary] didn't start Terry> with all those @ entries - no doubt alphabetical order is Terry> working against us there. +1 As an example, @settings is listed under "S" and not under Symbols -- this is a GOOD thing because as a newbie it's where I w

Re: @root must disappear

2010-08-07 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Edward K. Ream wrote: > On my bicycle ride today I had a "road to Damascus" moment:  It is > time to kill @root, or at least send to it the attic, there to be > quickly forgotten. Thanks for all recent comments. I have yet to hear a peep of protest. > Furthermore

Re: @root must disappear

2010-08-06 Thread Ville M. Vainio
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Edward K. Ream wrote: > All comments are welcome, but there is any way anyone is going to > change my mind about this.  Leo deserves to lose about half its > apparent weight. +1. Actually removing support from the code (which is somewhat more controversial than d

Re: @root must disappear

2010-08-06 Thread Gour D.
On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 15:18:36 -0700 (PDT) >> "Edward" == "Edward K. Ream" wrote: Edward> Let me be very clear. I think @root is a huge burden on Leo. Edward> It more than doubles the apparent complexity of Leo for Edward> newbies, and offers exactly *nothing* of value to anyone. +1 Edward> P.

Re: @root must disappear

2010-08-06 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Terry Brown wrote: > On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 17:59:31 -0700 (PDT) > I think it would be more helpful if it didn't start with all those @ entries > - no doubt alphabetical order is working against us there. This may be an issue with the standard .css file. I didn't do

Re: @root must disappear

2010-08-06 Thread Robert
> On Aug 6, 7:28 pm, "Edward K. Ream" wrote: > Take a look now at the new glossary.   > http://webpages.charter.net/edreamleo/glossary.html > uh...ok so you removed "@root" :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To post to this gro

Re: @root must disappear

2010-08-06 Thread Terry Brown
On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 17:59:31 -0700 (PDT) "Edward K. Ream" wrote: > The glossary makes clear, as never before, that learning Leo need not > be all that hard. I think it would be more helpful if it didn't start with all those @ entries - no doubt alphabetical order is working against us there. Th

Re: @root must disappear

2010-08-06 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Aug 6, 5:18 pm, "Edward K. Ream" wrote: > On my bicycle ride today I had a "road to Damascus" moment:  It is > time to kill @root, or at least send to it the attic, there to be quickly > forgotten. The great collapse in complexity has taken away almost all the blah, blah, blah of LP (Literate

Re: @root must disappear

2010-08-06 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Aug 6, 7:28 pm, "Edward K. Ream" wrote: > A giant weight has just been lifted from all of our shoulders. Take a look now at the new glossary. http://webpages.charter.net/edreamleo/glossary.html The glossary makes clear, as never before, that learning Leo need not be all that hard. Edwar

Re: @root must disappear

2010-08-06 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Edward K. Ream wrote: > This makes the Index look super.  Take a look. FYI: http://webpages.charter.net/edreamleo/genindex.html Getting rid of @root and most of LP might be the simplification that makes many more people be able to get what Leo is all about. A gi

Re: @root must disappear

2010-08-06 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Terry Brown wrote: > On the complexity topic, while I was working on the windows \absolute\path > problem (which is non-urgently awaiting your input, BTW) I was surprised by > the number of methods which do similar things to determine the path of an > @ node.  I

Re: @root must disappear

2010-08-06 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Edward K. Ream wrote: > Without @root, Chapter 4 would be less than half as long and would > actually be easy to understand :-) As usual, any simplification of > Chapter 4 would likely lead to further collapses in complexity. Done on the trunk and on Leo's web sit

Re: @root must disappear

2010-08-06 Thread Terry Brown
--- On Fri, 8/6/10, Edward K. Ream wrote: > After this Aha, it is obvious that I don't want to use > @root, think about @root, document @root or test @root. None of which are sufficient reasons for removing it, of course ;-) > And I don't want Leo's newbies to do so either. This might be a s

Re: @root must disappear

2010-08-06 Thread Robert
whatever makes LEO simpler to learn/understand/use/manage/maintain is a good. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To post to this group, send email to leo-edi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to leo-edit

@root must disappear

2010-08-06 Thread Edward K. Ream
On my bicycle ride today I had a "road to Damascus" moment: It is time to kill @root, or at least send to it the attic, there to be quickly forgotten. I suspect nobody is seriously using @root, because I can tell you that the docs for @root are at present completely unintelligible. Furthermore,