Re: New User's Guide To Leo

2023-05-21 Thread Thomas Passin
On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 11:17:52 AM UTC-4 Ben Hancock wrote: Thomas writes: I've been thinking that there should be a book on Leo. I don't think I've got another book left in me, but I'm not completely happy with the existing docs because I don't think they really match what a new user

Re: New User's Guide To Leo

2023-05-21 Thread Thomas Passin
I've been plugging away New User's Guide. I've also changed the name of the top-level file to *index.html*. The rest of the URL remains the same: New User's Guide . On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 7:37:29 PM UTC-4 Thomas Passin wrote: > > > On

Re: New User's Guide To Leo

2023-05-20 Thread Thomas Passin
On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 6:10:24 PM UTC-4 Ben Hancock wrote: [snip] Hi Rob, Thanks. I'd be grateful for your tips. It looks like I can probably get a good start on point 2 (creating documents) with the "Creating Documents from Outlines" tutorial[1], but if there are particular things

Re: New User's Guide To Leo

2023-05-20 Thread Ben Hancock
> On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 11:17:52 AM UTC-4 > Ben Hancock wrote: > > > [...] what I think might be really useful are some step-by-step > > examples of common user stories. > > > > For example: > > > > * I'm a developer working on a small-ish Python project that I > > collaborate on with

Re: New User's Guide To Leo

2023-05-18 Thread Rob
Ben, I have used Leo successfully for many years in your examples 2 and 3. I'd be glad to write up typical workflows that I use if that would be useful, However, I agree w/ Thomas these probably aren't best suited for a new user guide. Rob... On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 11:17:52 AM UTC-4 Ben

Re: New User's Guide To Leo

2023-05-18 Thread Thomas Passin
No apologies needed. Leo is terrific, but it does have quite a learning curve. In the end, I think many people end up with their own personalized workflows, most likely with some customized scripts to help. I like your suggestions of user scenarios walkthroughs, and I think they don't really

Re: New User's Guide To Leo

2023-05-18 Thread Ben Hancock
Thomas writes: I've been thinking that there should be a book on Leo. I don't think I've got another book left in me, but I'm not completely happy with the existing docs because I don't think they really match what a new user faces when trying to fire up Leo and use it the first few times.

Re: New User's Guide To Leo

2023-05-12 Thread Rob
Thanks, Ludwig for your work on the Homebrew project. I seem to remember I used HB to install Leo on my Mac. However, I have little to no recollection of the actual process. I suppose I could noodle it out again if I had to. My MacBook Pro is going on 10+ years and it's fine for now. Not sure

Re: New User's Guide To Leo

2023-05-12 Thread Ludwig Schwardt
Hi Rob, I remember your struggles on the Mac. It inspired me to create the leo Homebrew formula back in the day. While I haven't used Leo since, I still hang out on the group. It's also interesting to see Leo pop up in VSCode, which I use daily. I just received a shiny new MacBook Pro last

Re: New User's Guide To Leo

2023-05-11 Thread Thomas Passin
I've extended the outline quite a bit. Please take a look and let me know your reactions. New User's Guide To Leo On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 11:40:40 PM UTC-4 Thomas Passin wrote: > I think it's not too hard on Windows, but that

Re: New User's Guide To Leo

2023-05-11 Thread Thomas Passin
I think it's not too hard on Windows, but that installer wouldn't work on a Mac. Without actually having a Mac, I don't see how it would be possible. Linux is a whole other kettle of fish. It's only on Linux that I've ever had any trouble. On Windows, getting Leo going hasn't fought back for

Re: New User's Guide To Leo

2023-05-11 Thread Rob
Echo what @Paul said about an installer. I believe the biggest obstacle to higher adoption of Leo isn't how to `use` Leo`, but how to install it. Every time I need to install on a new machine, I dread it! Consider Picard , a music tagging application. It is a

Re: New User's Guide To Leo

2023-05-11 Thread Thomas Passin
On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 3:31:45 PM UTC-4 Paul wrote: Explain CLONING up front: not mind mapping or concept mapping, virtually unige Not as unique as you might think (e.g., TreeLine ). What's probably unique - or at least valuable - is how clones

Re: New User's Guide To Leo

2023-05-11 Thread Paul S. Wilson
Sorry for tyoes On Thu, May 11, 2023, 2:31 PM Paul S. Wilson wrote: > Two biggies after 20 years > > Explain CLONING up front: not mind mapping or concept mapping, virtually > unige > > And for the love of whatever, make Windows / Mad installer > > 20-year blocker for magnitude adoption (10x

Re: New User's Guide To Leo

2023-05-11 Thread Paul S. Wilson
Two biggies after 20 years Explain CLONING up front: not mind mapping or concept mapping, virtually unige And for the love of whatever, make Windows / Mad installer 20-year blocker for magnitude adoption (10x 100x ?) Paul On Thu, May 11, 2023, 2:21 PM Paul S. Wilson wrote: > All onboard.

Re: New User's Guide To Leo

2023-05-11 Thread Thomas Passin
Thanks! Partly I'm motivated by the experience of opening a new program, seeing the window, and not being able to do a thing. It's so frustrating! I've had that happen a few times too many, and I wouldn't want new Leo users to go through it. And partly because it's so hard to give

Re: New User's Guide To Leo

2023-05-11 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi Thomas, This looks pretty good! Thanks for the document and the effort behind. The visual tour of what Leo is capable of is very compelling and a good showcase to new users about why to use Leo. Keep the good work, Offray On 7/05/23 23:56, Thomas Passin wrote: I've been thinking that

Re: New User's Guide To Leo

2023-05-11 Thread Thomas Passin
Thanks... I'll add some material about LaTex. On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 10:32:29 AM UTC-4 Rob wrote: > I usually use @file w/ @language=tex for the xxx.tex files and Leo handles > the comments appropriately. Works great! > > I also have created several standard templates for typical document

Re: New User's Guide To Leo

2023-05-11 Thread Rob
I usually use @file w/ @language=tex for the xxx.tex files and Leo handles the comments appropriately. Works great! I also have created several standard templates for typical document types w/ all the special preamble commands. Rob... On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 10:27:53 AM UTC-4

Re: New User's Guide To Leo

2023-05-11 Thread Thomas Passin
Texnic Center looks pretty good, at a quick glance. Do you write an @clean TeX document in Leo, then process it into LaTex with Texnic Center? On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 10:09:07 AM UTC-4 Rob wrote: > I don't use Leo for that. I suppose I could, but I don't know how to > create a suitable

Re: New User's Guide To Leo

2023-05-11 Thread Rob
I don't use Leo for that. I suppose I could, but I don't know how to create a suitable script. I'm on Windows, so I use Texnic Center to create the documents (PDFs). It's easy enough and allows for projects w/ multiple related documents. Perhaps I could write up

Re: New User's Guide To Leo

2023-05-11 Thread Thomas Passin
Thanks! I have only used it for LaTex a few times and it didn't come to mind. How do you create the actual document from the Leo outline? On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 8:59:48 AM UTC-4 Rob wrote: > Looks good! May I also suggest to add LaTeX to the list of structured > language support. There

Re: New User's Guide To Leo

2023-05-11 Thread Rob
Looks good! May I also suggest to add LaTeX to the list of structured language support. There are more than a few of us LaTeX users on this group. I use Leo extensively as a LaTeX editor, especially finding the abbreviations a real time saver! My 2 cents. Rob... On Monday, May 8, 2023 at

Re: New User's Guide To Leo

2023-05-08 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 5:02 PM Thomas Passin wrote: > Keep checking back in with the link. I'm making frequent changes for the > time being. > Will do. Edward -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

Re: New User's Guide To Leo

2023-05-08 Thread Thomas Passin
Keep checking back in with the link. I'm making frequent changes for the time being. On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 10:02:16 AM UTC-4 Edward K. Ream wrote: > On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 8:26 AM Thomas Passin wrote: > >> On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 7:29:01 AM UTC-4 Edward K. Ream wrote: >> >> The first

Re: New User's Guide To Leo

2023-05-08 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 8:26 AM Thomas Passin wrote: > On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 7:29:01 AM UTC-4 Edward K. Ream wrote: > > The first question most people would have would likely be: "Why should I > care about yet another text editor?". > > > That's what I think too. I've tried to address it by

Re: New User's Guide To Leo

2023-05-08 Thread Thomas Passin
On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 7:29:01 AM UTC-4 Edward K. Ream wrote: The first question most people would have would likely be: "Why should I care about yet another text editor?". That's what I think too. I've tried to address it by starting out with "what can you do with Leo" And trying to

Re: New User's Guide To Leo

2023-05-08 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sun, May 7, 2023 at 11:56 PM Thomas Passin wrote: > I've been thinking that there should be a book on Leo. +1 Please take a look and let me know what you think, bearing in mind that > it's a *very* preliminary and incomplete draft. > > New User's Guide To Leo >