Re: Change r6572 Roadmap

2005-07-30 Thread Justin R. Knierim
Greg Schafer wrote: Tush, you have just clearly demonstrated you have no idea at all what you're talking about on this topic. I would kindly ask you to stop putting people down. Unless you have the required level of experience and expertise in cross compilation, you do not have a leg to st

Re: Change r6572 Roadmap

2005-07-30 Thread Greg Schafer
Jim Gifford wrote: > Not until a formal apology is posted. I want my name and LFS's name > cleared of the allegations you brought up. I WILL NOT back down on this > point. Tough. The facts speak for themselves, and you know it. I do not care anymore. If you want to act like a 12 year old, go f

Re: Change r6572 Roadmap

2005-07-30 Thread Jim Gifford
Greg Schafer wrote: Ok, good. Can we get back to improving the build now? Can we please keep development discussions on list please? There is plenty that needs to be done and I have long list of things to address. Not until a formal apology is posted. I want my name and LFS's name cleared o

Re: Change r6572 Roadmap

2005-07-30 Thread Greg Schafer
Jim Gifford wrote: > Are you man enough to apologize for false allegations? Look through the > threads on this discussion. There are no false allegations. > Unethical practices (That's calling the kettle black) > No technical toolchain knowledge. (You have never talked with me, so you > don't

Re: Change r6572 Roadmap

2005-07-30 Thread Greg Schafer
Tushar Teredesai wrote: > This is a very valid point IMO. No, it is completely invalid. See below. > Since the cross-LFS will most probably > have the official LFS blessing, Have you even looked at it? Let alone tried it? It has a long way to go. > I would like it to have proper > attribution.

Re: Bash Docs

2005-07-30 Thread Archaic
On Sat, Jul 30, 2005 at 07:54:30PM +0100, Matthew Burgess wrote: > > Well, bashref.html is linked to from > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~matthew/LFS-references.html, which is > itself linked to from chapter01/resources.html in the book. We could > add a link to the full bash-doc tarball to

Re: Proftpd uses /var/run/proftpd (BZ#786)

2005-07-30 Thread Bruce Dubbs
DJ Lucas wrote: > Okay, this should be easy enough. Just which solution is better? Add > /var/run/proftpd to createfiles, or modify proftpd to use /var/run. I > lean toward the modification to use /var/run. What say the group? > > http://blfs-bugs.linuxfromscratch.org/show_bug.cgi?id=786 We d

Re:'kdm' is not installed with kdebase and Other Errors.

2005-07-30 Thread randhir phagura
Hi Roberts, On 27 Jul 2005 21:21:33 you wrote: When xorg is compiled find libXau.a and libXdmcp.a. Try something like this: mkdir /tmp/tmpstuff cd /tmp/tmpstuff ar -x /path/to/libXau.a gcc -shared -o libXau.so *.o install libXau.so /usr/X11R6/lib and repeat that with libXdmcp.a (after cleari

Re: NNTP Server

2005-07-30 Thread Archaic
On Sat, Jul 30, 2005 at 12:02:44PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > I hope not. Sometimes I am out of town and want to catch up. I don't > like or have a notebook computer and sometimes am limited to using > someone else's machine, perhaps with some other operating system. Being > able to do a sub

Re: Change r6572 Roadmap

2005-07-30 Thread Jim Gifford
Tushar Teredesai wrote: On 7/30/05, Jim Gifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Do you want to be associated with something that is utilizing unethical practices, I don't think so. This is a very valid point IMO. Since the cross-LFS will most probably have the official LFS blessing, I wou

Re: Change r6572 Roadmap

2005-07-30 Thread Tushar Teredesai
On 7/30/05, Jim Gifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Do you want to be associated with something that is utilizing unethical > practices, I don't think so. > This is a very valid point IMO. Since the cross-LFS will most probably have the official LFS blessing, I would like it to have proper at

Re: Bash Docs

2005-07-30 Thread Randy McMurchy
Matthew Burgess wrote these words on 07/30/05 14:52 CST: > Well, I'm all for conserving BZ numbers :) Sure, the patch would be > great! Thanks. Attached. I'm not sure if adding the tarball to the Packages file was correct. If not, simply remove those lines. -- Randy rmlscsi: [GNU ld version

Re: stupid newbie question

2005-07-30 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, 30 Jul 2005, Jaap Struyk wrote: > Op za 30-07-2005, om 17:19 schreef Jaap Struyk: > > > What the 2 have in common is: > > asm operand 1 probably doesn't match constraints > > and > > impossible constraint in `asm' > > Both modules build fine on a clean kernel, but the errors don't make > >

Re: Bash Docs

2005-07-30 Thread Matthew Burgess
Randy McMurchy wrote: BZ it, or just send you a patch to trunk? I have the patch ready. :-) Well, I'm all for conserving BZ numbers :) Sure, the patch would be great! Thanks. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: Se

Re: Bash Docs

2005-07-30 Thread Randy McMurchy
Matthew Burgess wrote these words on 07/30/05 14:43 CST: > M.Canales.es wrote: > >>The precedent is already here. We are dowloading the glibc-linuxthreads >>package only to install the API manpages. > > Damn this all too knowledgable community! Thanks Manuel. Randy, care > to bugzilla this?

Re: Bash Docs

2005-07-30 Thread Matthew Burgess
M.Canales.es wrote: The precedent is already here. We are dowloading the glibc-linuxthreads package only to install the API manpages. Damn this all too knowledgable community! Thanks Manuel. Randy, care to bugzilla this? Cheers, Matt. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-

Re: Bash Docs

2005-07-30 Thread M.Canales.es
El Sábado, 30 de Julio de 2005 20:54, Matthew Burgess escribió: > Well, bashref.html is linked to from > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~matthew/LFS-references.html, which is > itself linked to from chapter01/resources.html in the book. We could > add a link to the full bash-doc tarball to the L

Re: Remaining 6.1 bugs

2005-07-30 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, 30 Jul 2005, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > This is a list of the remaining 6.1 bugs that need package updates: > > Bug Package Assigned to > > 1350 Kerberos > 1369 Tidy Randy > 1430 LIBPCAP > 1443 Firefox > 1444 Thunderbird Richard > 1475 Ethereal Randy > - Bruce, I tak

Re: Bash Docs

2005-07-30 Thread Tushar Teredesai
On 7/30/05, Matthew Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Randy McMurchy wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I'd like to make folks aware of something, and let this be discussed > > and see if perhaps some action should be taken. > > > > There is a Bash-3.0 Docs tarball that can be downloaded which has > > l

Re: Bash Docs

2005-07-30 Thread Randy McMurchy
Matthew Burgess wrote these words on 07/30/05 13:54 CST: > Well, bashref.html is linked to from > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~matthew/LFS-references.html, which is > itself linked to from chapter01/resources.html in the book. We could > add a link to the full bash-doc tarball to the LFS-r

Re: stupid newbie question

2005-07-30 Thread Robert Connolly
On July 30, 2005 11:13 am, Jaap Struyk wrote: > Can you explain the (un)zip assembly tweeks maybe (they are not (yet) in > the book)? In the makefile find the -DASM parts in the cflags and remove them. > And why do some apps need to disable mmx? (or did I fully understand you > wrong on that?) A

Re: Bash Docs

2005-07-30 Thread Matthew Burgess
Randy McMurchy wrote: Hi all, I'd like to make folks aware of something, and let this be discussed and see if perhaps some action should be taken. There is a Bash-3.0 Docs tarball that can be downloaded which has lots of additional Bash docs in many formats. This tarball is rather large (1.9 MB

Re: GCC-4.0.1 patch (no_fixincludes)

2005-07-30 Thread Matthew Burgess
Bryan Kadzban wrote: Or just point to http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/ :) (Although actually, I can see how having some sort of explanation might be helpful. Would there be some way of automating that, though, so nobody has to remember to update the list of summaries whenever the r

Re: GCC-4.0.1 patch (no_fixincludes)

2005-07-30 Thread Bryan Kadzban
Matthew Burgess wrote: > we've got a fair few branches of LFS kicking around now. I think we > could use something like GCC's "Active Development Branches" section > of http://gcc.gnu.org/cvs.html to let people know about them. Or just point to http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/ That's wh

RE: Bash Docs

2005-07-30 Thread David Fix
> Seeing how the Bash documentation is expansive, it may be nice to have > the HTML files installed, allowing folks to easily print and have > browser search capability. > > What say the group? I think it should be included for sure... :) If you're going to be doing LFS, it probably means you'l

Bash Docs

2005-07-30 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, I'd like to make folks aware of something, and let this be discussed and see if perhaps some action should be taken. There is a Bash-3.0 Docs tarball that can be downloaded which has lots of additional Bash docs in many formats. This tarball is rather large (1.9 MB), and because if this t

Re: GCC-4.0.1 patch (no_fixincludes)

2005-07-30 Thread Matthew Burgess
David Fix wrote: It's rendered on a daily basis at http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/gcc4/ AHA! :) That's what I was looking for! Thanks a ton! Which reminds me...we've got a fair few branches of LFS kicking around now. I think we could use something like GCC's "Active Developmen

RE: GCC-4.0.1 patch (no_fixincludes)

2005-07-30 Thread David Fix
> It's rendered on a daily basis at > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/gcc4/ AHA! :) That's what I was looking for! Thanks a ton! Dave -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information pag

Re: Remaining 6.1 bugs

2005-07-30 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 07/30/05 12:21 CST: > This is a list of the remaining 6.1 bugs that need package updates: > > Bug Package Assigned to > > 1350 Kerberos > 1369 Tidy Randy > 1430 LIBPCAP > 1443 Firefox > 1444 Thunderbird Richard > 1475 Ethereal Randy > -

Re: Chapter 5 Tar instructions (GCC-4 branch)

2005-07-30 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 07/30/05 11:47 CST: > Noted in the Chapter 5 instructions for Tar in the GCC-4 book is > an instruction to install a patch (gcc4_fix_tests). The text describing > this patch is inaccurate because this patch is not required to build > or install the package. > >

Re: GCC-4.0.1 patch (no_fixincludes)

2005-07-30 Thread Matthew Burgess
Randy McMurchy wrote: David Fix wrote these words on 07/30/05 11:56 CST: Sorry that I'm a bit off topic... :) Where can I view the GCC-4 branch of the book? I'd be interested in giving some feedback about it! :) > I don't know if it is available on Belgarath and mirrors as HTML, I didn't

Remaining 6.1 bugs

2005-07-30 Thread Bruce Dubbs
This is a list of the remaining 6.1 bugs that need package updates: Bug Package Assigned to 1350 Kerberos 1369 Tidy Randy 1430 LIBPCAP 1443 Firefox 1444 Thunderbird Richard 1475 Ethereal Randy - Randy, you are the most knowledeable of the editors on Kerberos. Its a P1

Re: GCC-4.0.1 patch (no_fixincludes)

2005-07-30 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 07/30/05 11:41 CST: > Is this patch required? > > If not, perhaps it should be removed from the list of patches. Looking at the ChangeLog it appears this patch is no longer used, so I've attached a patch to fix the branch sources. -- Randy rmlscsi: [GNU ld

RE: GCC-4.0.1 patch (no_fixincludes)

2005-07-30 Thread David Fix
> I find it easiest to check out the SVN sources and render the book > myself. It is easier to stay with a consistent version that way, if > desired. I don't know if it is available on Belgarath and mirrors as > HTML, I didn't check. > > I also plan on being as helpful as possible and sending in p

Re: GCC-4.0.1 patch (no_fixincludes)

2005-07-30 Thread Randy McMurchy
David Fix wrote these words on 07/30/05 11:56 CST: > Sorry that I'm a bit off topic... :) Where can I view the GCC-4 branch of > the book? I'd be interested in giving some feedback about it! :) I find it easiest to check out the SVN sources and render the book myself. It is easier to stay wit

Re: NNTP Server

2005-07-30 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Matthew Burgess wrote: > NNTP stuff has caused us a number of problems over time. It therefore > might just be more economical to ditch the whole thing. Watch this space! I hope not. Sometimes I am out of town and want to catch up. I don't like or have a notebook computer and sometimes am lim

RE: GCC-4.0.1 patch (no_fixincludes)

2005-07-30 Thread David Fix
> -Original Message- > Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 12:41 PM > Subject: GCC-4.0.1 patch (no_fixincludes) > > Hi all, > > Noted in the list of required patches in the GCC-4 branch is the > gcc-4.0.1-no_fixincludes-1.patch patch. However, this patch does not > seem to be referenced in the

Chapter 5 Tar instructions (GCC-4 branch)

2005-07-30 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, Noted in the Chapter 5 instructions for Tar in the GCC-4 book is an instruction to install a patch (gcc4_fix_tests). The text describing this patch is inaccurate because this patch is not required to build or install the package. The patch is only required if you run the test-suite. Perha

GCC-4.0.1 patch (no_fixincludes)

2005-07-30 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, Noted in the list of required patches in the GCC-4 branch is the gcc-4.0.1-no_fixincludes-1.patch patch. However, this patch does not seem to be referenced in the text of the book to ever be installed. Is this patch required? If not, perhaps it should be removed from the list of patches.

Re: NNTP Server

2005-07-30 Thread Matthew Burgess
Joachim Beckers wrote: What do you mean with "a while"? Is it like a whole week or just a couple of hours? Depends on whether my planned approach works. If I've thought about things correctly, it should be a couple of hours. Having said that, the NNTP stuff has caused us a number of proble

Re: Shadow Group Support

2005-07-30 Thread Matthew Burgess
Gerard Beekmans wrote: Well that does change things a bit. If the developers don't have it figured out yet, let's then maintain the status quo for now? That's the main reason I haven't upgraded shadow yet. Recent versions seem to have a number of bugs, and this one, whilst certainly not a s

Re: NNTP Server

2005-07-30 Thread Joachim Beckers
Matthew Burgess wrote: > Richard A Downing wrote: > >> Is there any realistic expectation that the facility to write to the >> lists via the NNTP service will be fixed? There is also a suggestion >> that it might be withdrawn. > > I came up with a plan that may well have fixed NNTP, but have bee