Re: --disable-nls

2005-08-23 Thread Greg Schafer
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > Greg Schafer wrote: >> Hmmm, interesting. Is this a FSF or HJL thing or both? I've just noticed >> that Binutils-pass2 also has --disable-nls. Hmm, OK. That is certainly >> good reason to pass '--disable-nls'. > > This is at least for HJL. Not tested with FSF. I've

Re: Remove inetutils from LFS [was Re: GCC-4.0.1]

2005-08-23 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: 3) It is an optional dependency of Man-DB (to be used instead of Man in the UTF-8 branch of the LFS book) Hrm? Has there been some decision there I've missed? No decision yet, but a proposal :) UTF-8 branch of the book doesn't exist yet,

Re: --disable-nls

2005-08-23 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Greg Schafer wrote: Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: No, it was added deliberately in order to avoid binutils dependency on the host gettext. So Binutils won't build with NLS if Gettext is missing on the host? Right. Hmmm, interesting. Is this a FSF or HJL thing or both? I've just noticed th

Re: --disable-nls

2005-08-23 Thread Greg Schafer
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > No, it was added deliberately in order to avoid binutils dependency on > the host gettext. So Binutils won't build with NLS if Gettext is missing on the host? Hmmm, interesting. Is this a FSF or HJL thing or both? I've just noticed that Binutils-pass2 also has --di

Re: Remove inetutils from LFS [was Re: GCC-4.0.1]

2005-08-23 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: 3) It is an optional dependency of Man-DB (to be used instead of Man in the UTF-8 branch of the LFS book) Hrm? Has there been some decision there I've missed? -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ U

Re: --disable-nls

2005-08-23 Thread Greg Schafer
Archaic wrote: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 12:13:07PM +1000, Greg Schafer wrote: >> >> "This disables internationalization as i18n is not needed for the temporary >> tools." > > This is an accurate statement. True. But it's not accurate in the context I described. If it's to stay it should at le

Re: Remove inetutils from LFS [was Re: GCC-4.0.1]

2005-08-23 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Bruce Dubbs wrote: Personally, I would like to use the ping and perhaps ping6 programs from iputils and move ncftp from blfs to lfs. ncftp has no prereqs. Why ncftp? I vote for Lynx for the following reasons: 1) It would also allow the reader to read the BLFS book :) 2) It supports HTTP 3) It

Re: --disable-nls

2005-08-23 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Greg Schafer wrote: Hi The explanation in Ch 5 Binutils Pass1 for --disable-nls says: "This disables internationalization as i18n is not needed for the temporary tools." This is misleading because only the Pass1's of Binutils and GCC are passed `--disable-nls'. For the statement to be accurate

Re: --disable-nls

2005-08-23 Thread Archaic
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 12:13:07PM +1000, Greg Schafer wrote: > > "This disables internationalization as i18n is not needed for the temporary > tools." This is an accurate statement. It does not say we need to pass this everywhere, not does it say we are specifically avoiding i18n in chapter 5. I

--disable-nls

2005-08-23 Thread Greg Schafer
Hi The explanation in Ch 5 Binutils Pass1 for --disable-nls says: "This disables internationalization as i18n is not needed for the temporary tools." This is misleading because only the Pass1's of Binutils and GCC are passed `--disable-nls'. For the statement to be accurate, `--disable-nls' woul

Re: 7.0-cross-lfs-20050818-x86_64 section 10.3 glibc installation

2005-08-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Ken Moffat wrote: On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Jim Gifford wrote: No problems Ken. But what do you think of my reasoning on the error about the different symlink names for ld? At the moment, that sounds plausible (I've just posted about the perl script bailing out). I used to

Re: 7.0-cross-lfs-20050818-x86_64 section 10.3 glibc installation

2005-08-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > Since > LFS is all about learning, anybody like to point me to a HOWTO on > learning to read what the book says, rather than what I think it says ? Right after I finish this new compiler I'm working on -- RPM: Read Programmer's Mind. :) -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscra

Re: PCRE Heap Overflow May Let Users Execute Arbitrary Code

2005-08-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Archaic wrote: > On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 09:23:40AM +0200, Dan Osterrath wrote: > >>http://www.securitytracker.com/alerts/2005/Aug/1014744.html > > > Lovely. Right after a BLFS release. :( > > Bruce, are there going to be any attempts at maintaining an errata page > for BLFS? Not right now, bu

Re: GCC-4 update

2005-08-23 Thread Randy McMurchy
Jim Gifford wrote these words on 08/23/05 18:48 CST: > I know you have compiled them, but have you tested their > functionality. Yes. -- Randy rmlscsi: [GNU ld version 2.15.94.0.2 20041220] [gcc (GCC) 3.4.3] [GNU C Library stable release version 2.3.4] [Linux 2.6.10 i686] 18:49:00 up 143

Re: GCC-4 update

2005-08-23 Thread Jim Gifford
Randy, I know you have compiled them, but have you tested their functionality. Just to give you a scenario I ran into with cross-lfs. Ping compiled ok, but when ran gives a bus error. -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] LFS User # 2577 Registered Linux User # 299986 -- http://li

Re: 7.0-cross-lfs-20050818-x86_64 section 10.3 glibc installation

2005-08-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Jim Gifford wrote: No problems Ken. But what do you think of my reasoning on the error about the different symlink names for ld? At the moment, that sounds plausible (I've just posted about the perl script bailing out). I used to have a --disable-multilib in my scripts,

Re: 7.0-cross-lfs-20050818-x86_64 section 10.3 glibc installation

2005-08-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Ken Moffat wrote: Sack-cloth and ashes time. I missed the "slibdir=/lib" part. Since LFS is all about learning, anybody like to point me to a HOWTO on learning to read what the book says, rather than what I think it says ? Thanks for the clue, Jim. So, now I'll co

Re: 7.0-cross-lfs-20050818-x86_64 section 10.3 glibc installation

2005-08-23 Thread Jim Gifford
No problems Ken. But what do you think of my reasoning on the error about the different symlink names for ld? -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] LFS User # 2577 Registered Linux User # 299986 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.or

GCC-4 update

2005-08-23 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, Just an update for anyone interested. I've got many packages built using the GCC-4 branch of LFS. Included so far is a functional KDE desktop, some multimedia stuff, pdf viewer, everything it takes to use subversion and render the LFS books, printing capability using CUPS, Samba support an

Re: 7.0-cross-lfs-20050818-x86_64 section 10.3 glibc installation

2005-08-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Jim Gifford wrote: Ken, You may want to see what I did in the book, I've gotten several builds working on MIPS64 and Sparc64(minus the bootloader issue.) Everything went into /lib no problem, I think this may be an x86_64 issue only. The reason I say this is that the ld

Re: 7.0-cross-lfs-20050818-x86_64 section 10.3 glibc installation

2005-08-23 Thread Jim Gifford
Ken, You may want to see what I did in the book, I've gotten several builds working on MIPS64 and Sparc64(minus the bootloader issue.) Everything went into /lib no problem, I think this may be an x86_64 issue only. The reason I say this is that the ld symlink on MIPS64 and Sparc64 are the s

Re: 7.0-cross-lfs-20050818-x86_64 section 10.3 glibc installation

2005-08-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, 20 Aug 2005, Ken Moffat wrote: On Fri, 19 Aug 2005, Jim Gifford wrote: Ken, Ryan, Doug, and others Do we need to make a change here for the pure64 build, or is further testing needed? Well, I've got through this part now, using 20050821, building pure64 from my own pure64. The l

Re: Remove inetutils from LFS [was Re: GCC-4.0.1]

2005-08-23 Thread Jim Gifford
Still doesn't work on Sparc64 works on Sparc. Netkit has been tested on all so it shouldn't be a problem. -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] LFS User # 2577 Registered Linux User # 299986 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/fa

Re: Remove inetutils from LFS [was Re: GCC-4.0.1]

2005-08-23 Thread Jim Gifford
M.Canales.es wrote: IMHO, for LFS we need only "ping" for FHS compliance. It's possible to build (and use) just Inetutil's ping on all archs? Doesn't work on Sparc -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] LFS User # 2577 Registered Linux User # 299986 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org

Re: Remove inetutils from LFS [was Re: GCC-4.0.1]

2005-08-23 Thread Matthew Burgess
Jim Gifford wrote: Matt, Which direction do we want to go in. At the moment, I'm seriously considering dropping inetutils and replacing it with just 'ping' from iputils. As you outlined, none of these packages are maintained (to the degree we require at least), so it's really picking the

Re: Remove inetutils from LFS [was Re: GCC-4.0.1]

2005-08-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jim Gifford wrote: > Matt, >Which direction do we want to go in. > > Removal of inetutils -> > Replace with netkit_base and netkit_combo? (Same as what > inetutils is) > Pros - Works with all architectures(cross-lfs, known > to be stable) > Cons - Needs heavy patching

Re: Remove inetutils from LFS [was Re: GCC-4.0.1]

2005-08-23 Thread M.Canales.es
El Martes, 23 de Agosto de 2005 20:56, Jim Gifford escribió: > M.Canales.es wrote: > >IMHO, for LFS we need only "ping" for FHS compliance. It's possible to > > build (and use) just Inetutil's ping on all archs? > > Doesn't work on Sparc Debian have an inetutils ping for Sparc: http://packages.de

Re: Remove inetutils from LFS [was Re: GCC-4.0.1]

2005-08-23 Thread M.Canales.es
El Martes, 23 de Agosto de 2005 20:09, Jim Gifford escribió: > Matt, > Which direction do we want to go in. IMHO, for LFS we need only "ping" for FHS compliance. It's possible to build (and use) just Inetutil's ping on all archs? About "ftp", actually isn't a requisite for LFS. We could poin

Re: Remove inetutils from LFS [was Re: GCC-4.0.1]

2005-08-23 Thread Jim Gifford
Matt, Which direction do we want to go in. Removal of inetutils -> Replace with netkit_base and netkit_combo? (Same as what inetutils is) Pros - Works with all architectures(cross-lfs, known to be stable) Cons - Needs heavy patching to work (

Re: MPlayer instructions and gst-plugins dependencies

2005-08-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: > Still, seems that updating the book with valid URLs (in cases where > there is one) is the prudent thing to do. Yes, but its not a high priority. Probably worth a P4 in BZ. As an editor updates a page, he should check all the links and update as necessary. > the libraw1

Re: MPlayer instructions and gst-plugins dependencies

2005-08-23 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 08/23/05 10:58 CST: > Bernard Leak wrote: >>The following links for optional dependencies for gst-plugins seem >>to be broken: > > See: > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/cvs/introduction/packages.html Still, seems that updating the book with valid URLs (

Re: Remove inetutils from LFS [was Re: GCC-4.0.1]

2005-08-23 Thread Jason Gurtz
On 8/22/2005 21:22, Archaic wrote: > On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 01:33:37PM -0400, Jason Gurtz wrote: >> >> available network connections. Hey, wouldn't it be cool if root could >> arbitrate how many of each type (TCP, UDP, ICMP) of connection each >> user/group had in each of its instance's heap. >

Re: GCC4 build with OpenSSH-4.1p1 missing -ldl

2005-08-23 Thread Bart Kreska
Dnia 21-08-2005 18:28:08 +0200 William wrotki: > Has anyone experienced the problem where the dynamic loader > library is not included in the list of LIBS? Yes, even when building GIMP. Broken binutils caused that behavior. Stay away from early 2.16. I switched to older version and it

Re: Shared library permissions

2005-08-23 Thread Andrew Benton
Greg Schafer wrote: Matthew Burgess wrote: Does anyone know why shared libraries need the execute bit set on them? AFAICT they don't need it (except of course libc.so.6 and ld-linux.so.2). Debian ship a whole distro with the shared libs all 644 (apart from those 2 aforementioned libs). My

Re: GCC-4.0.1

2005-08-23 Thread Kev Buckley
> Thanks for the info. I think this is more serious than the ftp > issue. I couldn't remember what my partitions are laid out like so I > thought I'd have a look... > > andy:~$ su > Password: > root:/home/andy# cfdisk > Segmentation fault > root:/home/andy# > > DOH! > I edited the configure scr