Re: GCC-4 (more nagging) :-)

2005-08-28 Thread DJ Lucas
Randy McMurchy wrote: > DJ Lucas wrote these words on 08/28/05 01:55 CST: > >>Randy McMurchy wrote: >> >> From what I can tell from the information you provided (following all >>>relevant links), this is a tough bug to follow. I stopped reading >>>when it was starting to dwell on the specs of

OpenSSL deprecated warnings

2005-08-28 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Hi, Would anyone mind if we inserted a sed after the ./config in OpenSSL to remove all the deprecated warnings? sed -i 's:mcpu:mtune:' {Configure,Makefile} -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the abov

Re: Building against 32- and 64-bit libraries

2005-08-28 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Michael Kipper wrote: > Hello, > > Appologies if this is in the wrong group, but I figured this would be the > forum to ask this question. > > I've build an LFS system which is essentially entirely 64-bit, for my > Athlon64. However, there are a few occasions where i686 support is > required, spe

Re: Building against 32- and 64-bit libraries

2005-08-28 Thread Jim Gifford
That's what we do in cross-lfs. http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/cross-lfs -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] LFS User # 2577 Registered Linux User # 299986 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscrib

Building against 32- and 64-bit libraries

2005-08-28 Thread Michael Kipper
Hello, Appologies if this is in the wrong group, but I figured this would be the forum to ask this question. I've build an LFS system which is essentially entirely 64-bit, for my Athlon64. However, there are a few occasions where i686 support is required, specifically for GRUB, and more recently

Re: Recommended dependencies.

2005-08-28 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 08/28/05 18:39 CST: > Seems reasonable to me. Want to take a stab at it? > > It should go in the "Important Information" chapter, but I don't know if > it should be a new section or a subsection of "Notes on Building Software". I think a sub-section would be mos

Re: Recommended dependencies.

2005-08-28 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Richard A Downing wrote: > Perhaps I should make it clear, I am asking for a clear definition of > the term 'Recommended' (as applied to dependencies) in the book. > > I don't criticise the rejection of the bug at all. Just the fact that > it relies on knowledge that is only documented in the m

Re: Recommended dependencies.

2005-08-28 Thread Archaic
On Sun, Aug 28, 2005 at 10:48:29PM +0100, Richard A Downing wrote: > > Perhaps I should make it clear, I am asking for a clear definition of > the term 'Recommended' (as applied to dependencies) in the book. I agree with Randy's vision of what recommended should mean as well as your recommendatio

Re: Use of tar in LFS books

2005-08-28 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Sun, Aug 28, 2005 at 01:20:51PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Basically, the old style of options for commands like ps and tar are > deprecated. The book should be teaching good style. > Thanks for the clear pointer, Bruce. -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: h

Re: Use of tar in LFS books

2005-08-28 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Sun, Aug 28, 2005 at 09:44:41AM -0600, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > For the glibc-linuxthreads package we use 'tar -xjvf' and for the > bash-docs package we use 'tar -zxf'. Should we continue to use verbosity OK, I just noticed something else. (Surprised I didn't catch it before...) One of the pac

Re: Recommended dependencies.

2005-08-28 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Sun, Aug 28, 2005 at 10:48:29PM +0100, Richard A Downing wrote: > Perhaps I should make it clear, I am asking for a clear definition of > the term 'Recommended' (as applied to dependencies) in the book. > > I don't criticise the rejection of the bug at all. Just the fact that > it relies on k

Re: Recommended dependencies.

2005-08-28 Thread Richard A Downing
Richard A Downing wrote: > BZ #1564 > > Randy states the following: > quote > > Closing this bug as invalid. PCRE is on the recommended dependency list. > If a builder chooses not to follow our recommendations, then whatever > happens is on the builder. > > Recommended = Do it > > The only reas

Recommended dependencies.

2005-08-28 Thread Richard A Downing
BZ #1564 Randy states the following: quote Closing this bug as invalid. PCRE is on the recommended dependency list. If a builder chooses not to follow our recommendations, then whatever happens is on the builder. Recommended = Do it The only reason it is in recommeneded instead of reqiured is f

Perl-5.8.7 compilation error, Chapter 6

2005-08-28 Thread Kapier
Hi, I have problem with perl. After `make`, a get: ../../miniperl "-I../../lib" "-I../../lib" "-I../../lib" "-I../../lib" Errno_pm.PL Errno.pm cp Errno.pm ../../lib/Errno.pm make[1]: Leaving directory `/zrodla/perl-5.8.7/ext/Errno' make: [extras.make] Error 1 (ignored) and after `make test`:

Re: gettext installations on machines with emacs

2005-08-28 Thread Doug Ronne
On 8/28/05, Doug Ronne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > echo "ac_cv_prog_EMACS=" >> config.cache before the start does the > trick. silly me. That doesn't do it. export EMACS="no" does it. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe:

gettext installations on machines with emacs

2005-08-28 Thread Doug Ronne
Whenever I try to install gettext on a machine that has emacs on it, I get a lisp error. If I use EMACS="" or disable emacs or without emacs nothing happens. The gettext-tools directory Makefile still ends up with EMACS=emacs. However, an echo "ac_cv_prog_EMACS=" >> config.cache before the star

Re: Use of tar in LFS books

2005-08-28 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > Isn't the - thing to do with compatibility with BSD? Take a look at `info tar`. Basically it says that: "On the other hand, this old style syntax makes it difficult to match option letters with their corresponding arguments, and is often confusing." and "Old options

Re: Use of tar in LFS books

2005-08-28 Thread Andrew Benton
Randy McMurchy wrote: Andrew Benton wrote these words on 08/28/05 12:27 CST: But this would work tar xfC somefile.tar.gz /somewhere Thanks for the lesson Andrew! It was just a lucky guess. Isn't the - thing to do with compatibility with BSD? -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinf

Re: Use of tar in LFS books

2005-08-28 Thread Randy McMurchy
Andrew Benton wrote these words on 08/28/05 12:27 CST: > But this would work > > tar xfC somefile.tar.gz /somewhere Thanks for the lesson Andrew! I have always been under the misguided impression that the argument to the parameter must follow the parameter. Meaning -f required the somefile.tar.

Re: Use of tar in LFS books

2005-08-28 Thread Andrew Benton
Randy McMurchy wrote: This works: tar xf somefile.tar.gz -C /somewhere This would not work: tar xf somefile.tar.gz C /somewhere So, perhaps it is for consistency sake more than technical. But this would work tar xfC somefile.tar.gz /somewhere -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listin

Re: Use of tar in LFS books

2005-08-28 Thread Randy McMurchy
Jeremy Huntwork wrote these words on 08/28/05 11:20 CST: > Indeed. But I had thought that there had been a technically correct > reason for including that. Anyone care to refresh my memory? Bruce usually summarizes this one up really well. As you Jeremy, I've forgotten the exact details, but ther

Re: Use of tar in LFS books

2005-08-28 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Sun, Aug 28, 2005 at 06:18:39PM +0200, Keith Moore wrote: > Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > > > Thanks for the comment, Randy. Makes sense to me. If no one has any > > objections, then, I'll change both commands to be 'tar -xf'. > > Not to be totally pedantic, but the leading '-' is also unnecessary.

Re: Use of tar in LFS books

2005-08-28 Thread Keith Moore
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > Thanks for the comment, Randy. Makes sense to me. If no one has any > objections, then, I'll change both commands to be 'tar -xf'. Not to be totally pedantic, but the leading '-' is also unnecessary. KM -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http

Re: Use of tar in LFS books

2005-08-28 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Sun, Aug 28, 2005 at 10:53:32AM -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote: > I believe the -v option should not be used on either. My philosophy > is that if something is being untarred to a final resting place > (i.e., somewhere in /usr), then use it as this creates a log of the > installed files. However, i

Re: Use of tar in LFS books

2005-08-28 Thread Randy McMurchy
Jeremy Huntwork wrote these words on 08/28/05 10:44 CST: > For the glibc-linuxthreads package we use 'tar -xjvf' and for the > bash-docs package we use 'tar -zxf'. Should we continue to use verbosity > for one and not the other? I believe the -v option should not be used on either. My philosophy

Use of tar in LFS books

2005-08-28 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Hey All, Had a question about the use of tar commands in the LFS book. It is a trivial matter, and probably doesn't make a bit of difference, but I was interested in people's opinions anyway. Currently, in the LFS book, tar is used twice (at leas in the gcc4 book - haven't checked development). O

Re: GCC-4 (more nagging) :-)

2005-08-28 Thread Chris Staub
Randy McMurchy wrote: DJ Lucas wrote these words on 08/28/05 01:55 CST: Randy McMurchy wrote: From what I can tell from the information you provided (following all relevant links), this is a tough bug to follow. I stopped reading when it was starting to dwell on the specs of ISO standards.

Re: GCC-4 (more nagging) :-)

2005-08-28 Thread Randy McMurchy
DJ Lucas wrote these words on 08/28/05 01:55 CST: > Randy McMurchy wrote: > >>>From what I can tell from the information you provided (following all >>relevant links), this is a tough bug to follow. I stopped reading >>when it was starting to dwell on the specs of ISO standards. >> >>I'd sure like