Re: Users and Groups

2006-04-21 Thread Richard A Downing FBCS CITP
Joe Ciccone wrote: > I put this page together with the users and groups from LFS and BLFS. > The only addition I made to this page is a users groups with a gid of > 100. Anyone that wants to set something in stone, this would be a good > place to start. http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~jciccone/use

Re: LFS vs BLFS -- udev rules

2006-04-21 Thread Jim Gifford
Bruce Dubbs wrote: Also, you may want to rephrase your comments to not use words that some may find offensive. Name calling is never appropriate. What are you talking about? You lost me on that comment. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch

Users and Groups

2006-04-21 Thread Joe Ciccone
I put this page together with the users and groups from LFS and BLFS. The only addition I made to this page is a users groups with a gid of 100. Anyone that wants to set something in stone, this would be a good place to start. http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~jciccone/users.html -- http://linuxfro

[Fwd: Host System Requirements Page]

2006-04-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
I sent this to -book when it should have gone to -dev. -- Bruce Original Message Subject: Host System Requirements Page Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 21:55:30 -0500 From: Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: LFS Book Maintenance List I rewrote this page. Tell me what you think. http

Re: LFS vs BLFS -- udev rules

2006-04-21 Thread William Zhou
Jim Gifford wrote: We should be providing all the users and groups and let the people choose what they want to remove. Instead of just giving them the bare minimum. We need to provide a fully functional system, not a half-baked one. Exactly. We had a same point. :). William Zhou -- http:

Re: LFS vs BLFS -- udev rules

2006-04-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jim Gifford wrote: > We should be providing all the users and groups and let the people > choose what they want to remove. Instead of just giving them the bare > minimum. We need to provide a fully functional system, not a half-baked > one. We do provide a fully functional system. A user just ha

Re: LFS vs BLFS -- udev rules

2006-04-21 Thread Jim Gifford
Archaic wrote: On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 01:28:10PM -0700, Jim Gifford wrote: There is suppose to be a master list of users/groups, I've never seen it myself. If that was published, we could take care of it in LFS. There basically is. Take what is in LFS and add what is in BLFS. Any g

Re: LFS vs BLFS -- udev rules

2006-04-21 Thread Jim Gifford
Bruce Dubbs wrote: Everybody has their own way of doing things. I prefer to only have the users/groups in my files that are necessary for the packages I install. That way if a number comes up on a ls -l, it flags the problem right away. You may want to do things differently. That's OK. Howeve

Re: LFS vs BLFS -- udev rules

2006-04-21 Thread William Zhou
Archaic wrote: On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 08:55:25PM +0100, William Zhou wrote: I prefer the CLFS way and I don't have to worry about the user/group management any more. Which is precisely why I don't like it. You should have to worry about it if the goal is education. Then you can devise any nu

Re: LFS vs BLFS -- udev rules

2006-04-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jim Gifford wrote: > In CLFS, we create all the users and groups, this will solve all issues > if LFS will follow. It will also simplify the BLFS instructions to > adding users to the appropriate groups. It's a plus for all, eliminates > so of tedious work the BLFS has to do managing users/groups a

Re: LFS vs BLFS -- udev rules

2006-04-21 Thread Archaic
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 01:28:10PM -0700, Jim Gifford wrote: >There is suppose to be a master list of users/groups, I've never > seen it myself. If that was published, we could take care of it in LFS. There basically is. Take what is in LFS and add what is in BLFS. Any gaps in gid numbering a

Re: LFS vs BLFS -- udev rules

2006-04-21 Thread Archaic
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 08:55:25PM +0100, William Zhou wrote: > > I prefer the CLFS way and I don't have to worry about the user/group > management any more. Which is precisely why I don't like it. You should have to worry about it if the goal is education. Then you can devise any number of metho

Re: LFS vs BLFS -- udev rules

2006-04-21 Thread Archaic
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 10:50:07AM -0700, Jim Gifford wrote: > In CLFS, we create all the users and groups, this will solve all issues Actually, it won't solve all issues. Remember, my focus is on the equal weight of technical correctness and education. Adding all possible groups and rules in one

Re: LFS vs BLFS -- udev rules

2006-04-21 Thread Jim Gifford
Exactly, and the LFS book would point to this list as to keep it current. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: LFS vs BLFS -- udev rules

2006-04-21 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 4/21/06, Jim Gifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dan, > There is suppose to be a master list of users/groups, I've never > seen it myself. If that was published, we could take care of it in LFS. That's what I mean, though. There can't be a master list in LFS because many of the users and

Re: LFS vs BLFS -- udev rules

2006-04-21 Thread Jim Gifford
Dan, There is suppose to be a master list of users/groups, I've never seen it myself. If that was published, we could take care of it in LFS. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: LFS vs BLFS -- udev rules

2006-04-21 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 4/21/06, Jim Gifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In CLFS, we create all the users and groups, this will solve all issues > if LFS will follow. It will also simplify the BLFS instructions to > adding users to the appropriate groups. It's a plus for all, eliminates > so of tedious work the BLFS h

Re: LFS vs BLFS -- udev rules

2006-04-21 Thread William Zhou
Jim Gifford wrote: In CLFS, we create all the users and groups, this will solve all issues if LFS will follow. It will also simplify the BLFS instructions to adding users to the appropriate groups. It's a plus for all, eliminates so of tedious work the BLFS has to do managing users/groups an

Re: NCPFS

2006-04-21 Thread Thomas Trepl
On Wednesday 19 April 2006 20:12, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Currently we have NCPFS-2.2.4 in the book. This package contains > client and administration tools for use with Novell networks. > >... > > Due to the lack of interest and the lack of testing capability, I > propose dropping this package from

Re: Patch - fix patches alpha order

2006-04-21 Thread M.Canales.es
El Viernes, 21 de Abril de 2006 06:26, Justin R. Knierim escribió: > Hi guys, > > After manually reviewing packages and patches, these out-of-order > patches have always bugged me, so here is a patch. Applies to LFS > trunk, moves inetutils patches before kbd, alpha orders tar security and > sparc

Re: LFS vs BLFS -- udev rules

2006-04-21 Thread Jim Gifford
In CLFS, we create all the users and groups, this will solve all issues if LFS will follow. It will also simplify the BLFS instructions to adding users to the appropriate groups. It's a plus for all, eliminates so of tedious work the BLFS has to do managing users/groups and gives everyone a ful

Re: Updating ALSA

2006-04-21 Thread Andrew Benton
Ken Moffat wrote: On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 10:38:54PM +0100, Andrew Benton wrote: Two other things which are OSS only are the proprietary binaries (Firefox plugins), macromedia Flash and Realplayer. I miss them, but not enough to make me want to compile OSS (I get better sound quality if I keep

Re: LFS vs BLFS -- udev rules

2006-04-21 Thread Andrew Benton
Archaic wrote: The other example, audio devices, would basically be the same. The devices would be created with their default permissions and group owned by root, but would be created with the proper names and in the proper directories. BLFS would then have the perfect forum to layout what needs