Re: Default filesystem

2007-02-02 Thread TheOldFellow
Luca wrote: > Hi. > > Only a reflection. > LFS officially supports Ext3 as default file-system and in BLFS book we > find under File Systems ReiserFS and XFS progs. These filesystems are > judged stable (Reiser4 is not judgeable as it is too young but it's > faster than those; I found only a bu

Re: Fwd: LFS Script suggestion

2007-02-02 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Barius Drubeck wrote: > Shouldn't the toolchain and kernel always be compiled in the C locale? No, see http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/ticket/1938 -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See th

Re: Default filesystem

2007-02-02 Thread Luca
Hi Dan. I didn't mean that it is said you *must* or some editor's preference or else I simply mean another thing, here reported some of his words (Alexader) in a private conversation: "Anyway, I am afraid that any attempt to build LFS on any filesystem other than ext3 is now considered an unfo

Re: Default filesystem

2007-02-02 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 2/2/07, Luca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > LFS officially supports Ext3 as default file-system and in BLFS book we > find under File Systems ReiserFS and XFS progs. These filesystems are > judged stable You're actually reading more into this than there is. There is no "officially supported" fil

Re: LFS Wiki UserNotes

2007-02-02 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 2/2/07, Barius Drubeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On the other hand, it is indeed a problem specific to supporting and > maintaining ancient systems with ancient glibc, thus temporaly far > *beyond* LFS, and therefore has little to do with a fresh LFS build > of a new system. Actually, this

Default filesystem

2007-02-02 Thread Luca
Hi. Only a reflection. LFS officially supports Ext3 as default file-system and in BLFS book we find under File Systems ReiserFS and XFS progs. These filesystems are judged stable (Reiser4 is not judgeable as it is too young but it's faster than those; I found only a bug after testing it for som

Missing && in docbook.xml

2007-02-02 Thread DJ Lucas
Hey guys, ran across this one that has been bugging me for a long time since I still do BLFS manually. I have no problems when added, but the && has been missing here for a long, long time. docbook is certainly not my specialty, so I didn't know if it was intentional, or if it's really been o

Re: LFS Wiki UserNotes

2007-02-02 Thread Barius Drubeck
On Saturday 03 February 2007 01:07, Ken Moffat wrote: > On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 11:12:44PM +, Matthew Burgess wrote: > > On Friday 02 February 2007 22:55, Dan Nicholson wrote: > > > http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-support/2007-February > > >/032433.html > > > > Wow, that's very useful

Re: Almost there with the Trac tickets!

2007-02-02 Thread DJ Lucas
Randy McMurchy wrote: > > DJ: http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/ticket/2186 I think this one was already handled by the Alsa changes that Dan took care of. We wanted to leave it open for Ken's comments, but it's been 20 days since requested for comment. I'm closing it now as invalid. --

Re: Fwd: LFS Script suggestion

2007-02-02 Thread Barius Drubeck
On Tuesday 30 January 2007 05:12, Ismael Luceno wrote: > Bruce Dubbs escribió: > > Dan Nicholson wrote: > > How about: > > > > $ sed -r 's/.*(gcc version [01234567890\.]+).*/\1/' /proc/version > > This string depends on the locale in use when the kernel was > compiled, so it will not work on all sy

Re: LFS Wiki UserNotes

2007-02-02 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 2/2/07, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Let me know if the problems recur and I'll look at it more. Huh. Well, everything's working now. If it happens again, I'll let you know. -- Dan -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/

Re: LFS Wiki UserNotes

2007-02-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Dan Nicholson wrote: > Hey Bruce, > > When I login to the LFS wiki (and sometimes BLFS), Trac keeps dropping > my credentials periodically. So, I click the Login button and > authenticate. Then I change to a new page and I'm no longer listed as > logged in above the taskbar and I can't do anything

Re: LFS Wiki UserNotes

2007-02-02 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 12:07:54AM +, Ken Moffat wrote: > I hadn't realised until now that the LFS info was in a wiki. To me, > the content, and indeed the format in which it was posted, are a hint. > Hints have a couple of differences from wikis - the text remains under > the control (and co

Re: LFS Wiki UserNotes

2007-02-02 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 11:12:44PM +, Matthew Burgess wrote: > On Friday 02 February 2007 22:55, Dan Nicholson wrote: > > > http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-support/2007-February/032433.html > > Wow, that's very useful information indeed. > > > I'd like it if he'd put that info on t

Re: LFS Wiki UserNotes

2007-02-02 Thread Dan Nicholson
Hey Bruce, When I login to the LFS wiki (and sometimes BLFS), Trac keeps dropping my credentials periodically. So, I click the Login button and authenticate. Then I change to a new page and I'm no longer listed as logged in above the taskbar and I can't do anything requiring privileges. If I hit t

Re: LFS Wiki UserNotes

2007-02-02 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 2/2/07, Matthew Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 02 February 2007 22:55, Dan Nicholson wrote: > > > http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-support/2007-February/032433.html > > Wow, that's very useful information indeed. That's what I said. > Yes, I think that sounds like a se

Re: LFS Wiki UserNotes

2007-02-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Matthew Burgess wrote: > Does blfs-book get notified when the Wiki pages are edited? I don't think Trac has that capability yet. IIRC, version 0.11, now in beta, is supposed to have that capability. > The reason I ask is that I don't want > editors to have to periodically trawl though the Wi

Re: LFS Wiki UserNotes

2007-02-02 Thread Matthew Burgess
On Friday 02 February 2007 22:55, Dan Nicholson wrote: > http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-support/2007-February/032433.html Wow, that's very useful information indeed. > I'd like it if he'd put that info on the Wiki, but I don't know where > to tell him to put it or how anyone would be

LFS Wiki UserNotes

2007-02-02 Thread Dan Nicholson
One thing that has worked out very well in BLFS is having the Notes area of the Wiki where people can collect extra tidbits of information. http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/wiki/BlfsNotes The LFS Wiki doesn't have the same level of organization. It'd be nice if we could do something like tha

Re: (hostname) login:

2007-02-02 Thread Joe Ciccone
Barius Drubeck wrote: > On Monday 29 January 2007 05:49, Marty _ wrote: > >> dont suppose anyone knows the general needed commands/utils for a >> successful login? >> i.e. i have '(hostname) login:' >> i type root >> waits 20-30 seconds >> and repeats. >> >> sulogin works inside the bootscripts.

Re: Run time depedencies

2007-02-02 Thread Matthew Burgess
On Friday 02 February 2007 14:33, TheOldFellow wrote: > The third problem is that LFS is almost dead (although BLFS is still > alive and kicking - It's great to see how much effort you guys are > putting in, and it's appreciated, I assure you.) and despite Gerard > having finally built the replace

Re: Run time depedencies

2007-02-02 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 2/2/07, TheOldFellow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I know this is none of my business, but to my mind there is a great deal > of difference between a build-time dependency and a run-time one. > > An optional run-time dependency IS part of the configuration: > WUIP (Will Use If Present) vs WRINP

Re: Almost there with the Trac tickets!

2007-02-02 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 2/1/07, Alexander E. Patrakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dan Nicholson wrote: > > On 2/1/07, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> #1957 was closed then reopened. If there is discussion necessary, > >> someone please open a new thread in blfs-dev. > > > > I'd prefer if Alexander took

Re: aRTS and SSE instructions - x86_64

2007-02-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jeff Davis wrote: > Hi Bruce, > > Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> As a general policy, we have not been directly addressing x86_64 in >> BLFS. It may be addressed in the future. We would appreciate it if >> you could post this in the aRts section of the BLFS wiki though. > > I'd be happy to! However, ma

Re: (hostname) login:

2007-02-02 Thread Barius Drubeck
On Monday 29 January 2007 05:49, Marty _ wrote: > dont suppose anyone knows the general needed commands/utils for a > successful login? > i.e. i have '(hostname) login:' > i type root > waits 20-30 seconds > and repeats. > > sulogin works inside the bootscripts. > shadow has been installed. (and ru

Re: Autotools

2007-02-02 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Matthew Burgess wrote: > I would therefore like LFS to change its instructions so that multiple > versions of the tools can be installed, although LFS itself will continue to > just install the latest versions (unless, of course, it needs to use a > previous release). Suitable explanatory mate