Re: Re: Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit

2008-03-21 Thread Ag. D. Hatzimanikas
On Fri, Mar 21, at 05:47 Bryan Kadzban wrote: > Therefore, I believe that BLFS is fine installing stuff into > /usr. But it depends on what you see as the definition of "the distro". Yes, is a controversial material at the minimum and I guess we can also interpret FHS differently and so on and so

Re: Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit

2008-03-21 Thread Bryan Kadzban
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ag. D. Hatzimanikas wrote: > >> Example? The common usage of /usr. Convenient but fundamental >> broken. From all the BLFS packages the half or even more, (they) >> really bellongs to /usr/local hierarchy. > > Why should t

Re: Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit

2008-03-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ag. D. Hatzimanikas wrote: > Example? The common usage of /usr. Convenient but fundamental broken. >>From all the BLFS packages the half or even more, (they) really bellongs > to /usr/local hierarchy. Why should they be in /usr/local? If a package is in the book, it is part of the "distro" and

Re: Re: Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit

2008-03-21 Thread Ag. D. Hatzimanikas
On Wed, Mar 19, at 11:52 J. Greenlees wrote: [...] > Both sections need to be made as simple and clear as possible, with the > absolute minimum required for a functional system to be base system > standard. While I understand your points and I can't but I agree with you, I am not sure if we can c

Re: Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit

2008-03-20 Thread Robert Daniels
On Wednesday 19 March 2008 17:37:42 Dan Nicholson wrote: > That's how things currently go, but it's a big mess. Let's say I've > developed my proprietary app on RHEL and now I want to sell it to > some company running Ubuntu. If I want it to be directly installable > for them, I have to port the pa

Re: Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit

2008-03-19 Thread Dan Nicholson
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Robert Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 19 March 2008 15:53:12 Dan Nicholson wrote: > > This isn't a proper channel for an LSB discussion, but the entire > I would think the LSB Meeting would be the appropriate forum, and Bruce > did ask for inpu

Re: Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit

2008-03-19 Thread Robert Daniels
On Wednesday 19 March 2008 15:53:12 Dan Nicholson wrote: > This isn't a proper channel for an LSB discussion, but the entire I would think the LSB Meeting would be the appropriate forum, and Bruce did ask for input on topics to bring up. (and I don't mean this in the whiny, argumentative way it l

Re: Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit

2008-03-19 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Dan Nicholson wrote: > In the context of *LFS, I don't think it really makes any sense to > pursue the LSB. Yes it does make sense. It makes us a part of the larger Linux community. It enables a user to add a proprietary package if desired. I know many LFSers may not want to use proprietary s

Re: Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit

2008-03-19 Thread Dan Nicholson
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Robert Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 19 March 2008 13:52:56 J. Greenlees wrote: > > > > > > Anything that should be adopted by all distros must remain > > non-controversial to truly be acceptable by all, the more specific > > the LSB gets,

Re: Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit

2008-03-19 Thread Dan Nicholson
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 11:52 AM, J. Greenlees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > With the LSB: > Why would a BASE standrd not stop at the absolute minimum needed for a > functioning system? The addition of package management [ for example ] > to the LSB has made in no longer a BASE standard. If ex

Re: Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit

2008-03-19 Thread Robert Daniels
On Wednesday 19 March 2008 13:52:56 J. Greenlees wrote: > > Anything that should be adopted by all distros must remain > non-controversial to truly be acceptable by all, the more specific > the LSB gets, the less respect many people will have for it. Specific > in software over the true base syste

Re: Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit

2008-03-19 Thread J. Greenlees
Zachary Kotlarek wrote: > > > Maybe I'm missing something, but the LSB Core specification is pretty > sparse: > http://refspecs.linux-foundation.org/LSB_3.2.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-generic/book1.html and that is where it should stop to be the base they intend. everything else makes it a DIS

Re: Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit

2008-03-19 Thread Zachary Kotlarek
On Mar 19, 2008, at 1:52 PM, J. Greenlees wrote: With the LSB: Why would a BASE standrd not stop at the absolute minimum needed for a functioning system? The addition of package management [ for example ] to the LSB has made in no longer a BASE standard. If extras are going to be included, th

Re: Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit

2008-03-19 Thread J. Greenlees
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > I have been invited to attend the Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit > taking place at the University of Texas Supercomputing Center in Austin, > TX from April 8 to 10, 2008. > > I applied using my LFS background and feel I will be representing the > com

Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit

2008-03-19 Thread Bruce Dubbs
I have been invited to attend the Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit taking place at the University of Texas Supercomputing Center in Austin, TX from April 8 to 10, 2008. I applied using my LFS background and feel I will be representing the community there. The agenda is at: https