On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 at 22:51, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
wrote:
>
> > I think it might be better to put EFI grub and its dependencies into BLFS.
> > There
> > is BLFS #5379 (opened 6 years ago). If Bruce agrees I'll change the
> > milestone
> > to 10.1 (10.0 will be too hurry) and do it. And, Willi
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lfs-dev@lists.linuxfromscratch.org;Cc: Bruce Dubbs;Subject:Re: [lfs-dev] grub
with uefi for LFS 10?On 8/5/20 2:25 AM, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote:
> On 2020-08-05 14:37 +0800, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev wrote:
>> On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 at 00:46, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev
>> wr
On 8/5/20 2:25 AM, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote:
On 2020-08-05 14:37 +0800, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev wrote:
On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 at 00:46, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev
wrote:
It's nearly impossible. If we do that we'll have to introduce at least five
new
packages: dosfstools, popt, pciutils, efivar, a
On 2020-08-05 14:26 +0800, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 at 04:32, Timothy Russo via lfs-dev
> wrote:
> > With efi being more the standard now, I'd like to ask if we could default
> > grub to supporting uefi instead of having to use the uefi hint.
> >
> > Or at last maybe
On 2020-08-05 14:37 +0800, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 at 00:46, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev
> wrote:
> > It's nearly impossible. If we do that we'll have to introduce at least five
> > new
> > packages: dosfstools, popt, pciutils, efivar, and efibootmgr. Pciutils is
> > reco
On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 at 00:46, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev
wrote:
>
> It's nearly impossible. If we do that we'll have to introduce at least five
> new
> packages: dosfstools, popt, pciutils, efivar, and efibootmgr. Pciutils is
> recommended to be installed along with "which" (it's a package's name), a
On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 at 04:32, Timothy Russo via lfs-dev
wrote:
>
> With efi being more the standard now, I'd like to ask if we could default
> grub to supporting uefi instead of having to use the uefi hint.
>
> Or at last maybe formalize it and make it an option, where you can pick
> bios/mbr or
On 2020-08-02 22:19 +0100, Ken Moffat via lfs-dev wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 02, 2020 at 10:07:23PM +0200, Alexey Orishko via lfs-dev wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 6:46 PM Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev
> > wrote:
> >
> > > > Since majority of new laptops have EFI, it would really help to have
> > > The re
On Sun, Aug 02, 2020 at 10:07:23PM +0200, Alexey Orishko via lfs-dev wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 6:46 PM Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev
> wrote:
>
> > > Since majority of new laptops have EFI, it would really help to have
> > The readers who don't need EFI will be annoyed. meson/ninja already
> > a
On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 6:46 PM Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev
wrote:
> > Since majority of new laptops have EFI, it would really help to have
> The readers who don't need EFI will be annoyed. meson/ninja already annoyed
> the readers using sysvinit.
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On 2020-08-02 17:08 +0200, Alexey Orishko via lfs-dev wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 11:49 PM Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
> wrote:
> > The only reason to use uefi is if you want to dual boot to Windows. It
> > complicates LFS and will interfere with learning how simple a boot can be.
> >
> >--
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 11:49 PM Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
wrote:
> The only reason to use uefi is if you want to dual boot to Windows. It
> complicates LFS and will interfere with learning how simple a boot can be.
>
>-- Bruce
I was about to post a question, when I saw this discussion. There
m
On 8/1/20 3:10 PM, Timothy Russo via lfs-dev wrote:
With efi being more the standard now, I'd like to ask if we could
default grub to supporting uefi instead of having to use the uefi hint.
Or at last maybe formalize it and make it an option, where you can pick
bios/mbr or uefi option.
The o
On Sat, Aug 01, 2020 at 03:10:54PM -0500, Timothy Russo via lfs-dev wrote:
> With efi being more the standard now, I'd like to ask if we could default
> grub to supporting uefi instead of having to use the uefi hint.
>
> Or at last maybe formalize it and make it an option, where you can pick
> bio
With efi being more the standard now, I'd like to ask if we could default
grub to supporting uefi instead of having to use the uefi hint.
Or at last maybe formalize it and make it an option, where you can pick
bios/mbr or uefi option.
Just a thought.
Thanks,
Tim Russo
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http://lists.linuxfrom
William Harrington wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 14:42:05 -0500
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
From the lfs point of view, I didn't notice any change when we did the
last update to beta2.
Upstream does not seen to be very interested in releases. 2.00 was 2013,
as was 2.02-beta2. beta3 was in February of t
On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 14:42:05 -0500
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> From the lfs point of view, I didn't notice any change when we did the
> last update to beta2.
>
> Upstream does not seen to be very interested in releases. 2.00 was 2013,
> as was 2.02-beta2. beta3 was in February of this year. I monit
Looking for opinions. Should we update grub from beta2 to beta3?
From the lfs point of view, I didn't notice any change when we did the
last update to beta2.
Upstream does not seen to be very interested in releases. 2.00 was 2013,
as was 2.02-beta2. beta3 was in February of this year. I mo
Dan McGhee wrote:
On 10/23/2014 05:54 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
I read through the hint. I don't really have any comments on the
content, but I do on some of the presentation--mostly minor. I'll
wait though until you reformat so we don't go through it multiple times.
OK. Hope I fixed it. Le
>
> > Your Hint, Your License - I guess you do not want people to
> > modify what you have written ?
>
> I have problems with licenses and copy rights. That’s why I like open
> source so much. It is a requirement of the format of the hint to reference
> a license, and although I did not read this
> On Oct 23, 2014, at 21:28, Ken Moffat wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 06:30:58PM -0500, Dan McGhee wrote:
>>
>
>> USING GRUB ON UEFI
>>
>>
>> AUTHOR: Dan McGhee
>> AUTHOR: Dan McGhee
>>
>
> Ah, trying to not publish your email. In that case, you will
> probably not want to host a P
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 06:30:58PM -0500, Dan McGhee wrote:
>
> I'm also going to "make it prettier" and more readable. Ultimately, I want
> to supply a "Table of Contents" so that it can be searchable in a browser or
> text editor. I want to accomplish this before it's published, hopefully
> abo
Dan McGhee wrote:
OK. Hope I fixed it. Let's try again.
Just so this doesn't get lost in the thread I'm going to test the hint
on an LFS-SVN jhalfs build. The purpose is to nail down the initial
location of unicode.pf2 so that grub finds it during "make install" and
"grub-install." I'm
Dan McGhee wrote:
On 10/23/2014 05:54 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
I read through the hint. I don't really have any comments on the
content, but I do on some of the presentation--mostly minor. I'll
wait though until you reformat so we don't go through it multiple times.
OK. Hope I fixed it. Le
On 10/23/2014 05:54 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
I read through the hint. I don't really have any comments on the
content, but I do on some of the presentation--mostly minor. I'll
wait though until you reformat so we don't go through it multiple times.
OK. Hope I fixed it. Let's try again.
Ob
> On Oct 23, 2014, at 17:12, Ken Moffat wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 04:59:05PM -0500, Dan McGhee wrote:
>>>
>>> ĸen - currently _suffering_ for his love of UTF-8 ;)
>>
>> I like UTF-8 also, but there are so many warnings in BLFS that I don’t use
>> it on my laptop.
>
> Unless you use
Dan McGhee wrote:
On Oct 23, 2014, at 16:11, Bruce Dubbs
wrote:
Dan McGhee wrote:
I have attached a copy of the draft grub hint for review and
comment. Please reply to this list for any and all comments
except negative ones. Please address those to my sister who is
an active employee of W
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 04:59:05PM -0500, Dan McGhee wrote:
> >
> > ĸen - currently _suffering_ for his love of UTF-8 ;)
>
> I like UTF-8 also, but there are so many warnings in BLFS that I don’t use it
> on my laptop.
Unless you use problematic (and very old) packages, I will suggest
that UTF
Ken Moffat wrote:
This looks ok to me : it seems to be plain text (I did not check
the line width). To be honest, Bruce's "accented a letters plus
random extra letters" look similar to what happens when people try
to read UTF-8 text in legacy encodings.
Right. However the hints should be i
> On Oct 23, 2014, at 16:47, Ken Moffat wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 04:26:15PM -0500, Dan McGhee wrote:
>>>
>>> I haven't yet had a chance to actually read the hint, but the format is
>>> wrong. It is not ASCII and the lines exceed 80 characters.
>>>
>>> There are a ton of sequences l
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 04:26:15PM -0500, Dan McGhee wrote:
> >
> > I haven't yet had a chance to actually read the hint, but the format is
> > wrong. It is not ASCII and the lines exceed 80 characters.
> >
> > There are a ton of sequences like: â~@~ What did you use to compose the
> > hint?
> On Oct 23, 2014, at 16:11, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
>
> Dan McGhee wrote:
>
>> I have attached a copy of the draft grub hint for review and comment. Please
>> reply to this list for any and all comments except negative ones. Please
>> address those to my sister who is an active employee of WWE an
Dan McGhee wrote:
I have attached a copy of the draft grub hint for review and comment. Please
reply to this list for any and all comments except negative ones. Please
address those to my sister who is an active employee of WWE and has made several
TV appearances. :)
OK, seriously, I will ap
> On Oct 23, 2014, at 11:24, Tim Tassonis wrote:
>
>
> On October 23, 2014 5:40:49 PM Dan McGhee wrote:
>
> > > On Oct 17, 2014, at 11:48, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> > >
> > > Dan McGhee wrote:
> > >>
> > I have attached a copy of the draft grub hint for review and comment.
> > Please reply to
On Oct 17, 2014, at 11:48, Bruce Dubbs wrote:Dan McGhee wrote:On 10/02/2014 02:28 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:Dan McGhee wrote:On 09/29/2014 05:45 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:Dan McGhee wrote:On 09/29/2014 02:45 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:We'll take this a step at a time. First upgrade the p
Dan McGhee wrote:
On 10/02/2014 02:28 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Dan McGhee wrote:
On 09/29/2014 05:45 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Dan McGhee wrote:
On 09/29/2014 02:45 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
We'll take this a step at a time. First upgrade the package with
current instructions that expect uefi to b
On 10/02/2014 02:28 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Dan McGhee wrote:
On 09/29/2014 05:45 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Dan McGhee wrote:
On 09/29/2014 02:45 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
We'll take this a step at a time. First upgrade the package with
current instructions that expect uefi to be missing or disabl
Le 12/10/2014 16:10, Dan McGhee a écrit :
>
> On Oct 12, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Pierre Labastie wrote:
>
>> [...]
> Pierre, this is really, really helpful. Thanks.
>
> As soon as I can get all my computer things ironed out, I’ll be able to
> finish the hint. It’s original goal was to do what you
On Oct 12, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Pierre Labastie wrote:
> I replaced the motherboard of my computer, which was dying. So now I have a
> new one with UEFI firmware, which prompted me to try to use it. Problem is,
> right now, I am only able to run in legacy mode.
>
> But what I have done, which may
Le 02/10/2014 17:27, Dan McGhee a écrit :
> On 10/02/2014 07:17 AM, Dan McGhee wrote:
>> On 10/02/2014 02:28 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
>>> If you write the hint, I'll be glad to review it, but I probably won't test
>>> it. I don't want to re-enable uefi on my laptop. I have no use for it.
>> Thanks fo
On 10/03/2014 03:47 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Craig Magee wrote:
On 3 October 2014 22:10, Mattias Schlenker
wrote:
On UEFI you could do the same: Add LFS to an existing GRUB. On the
other
hand you could add an GRUBX64.EFI as LFSX64.EFI to the list of UEFI
bootloaders via efibootmgr. On a fre
On 4 October 2014 09:47, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
>
> Building a custom kernel to embed a PARTUUUID is not my idea of convenient.
I never said it was. But then building Linux isn't the most convenient way
to install it either, and installing Linux on a Windows 8 box is even less.
In the last paragra
Craig Magee wrote:
On 3 October 2014 22:10, Mattias Schlenker wrote:
On UEFI you could do the same: Add LFS to an existing GRUB. On the other
hand you could add an GRUBX64.EFI as LFSX64.EFI to the list of UEFI
bootloaders via efibootmgr. On a fresh machine with just LFS and no other
systems y
On 3 October 2014 22:10, Mattias Schlenker wrote:
>
> On UEFI you could do the same: Add LFS to an existing GRUB. On the other
> hand you could add an GRUBX64.EFI as LFSX64.EFI to the list of UEFI
> bootloaders via efibootmgr. On a fresh machine with just LFS and no other
> systems you would prob
Am 02.10.2014 um 17:27 schrieb Dan McGhee:
I've been thinking about what I said here. The statement "I can't test
it...," is not complete. I can test, and have tested, everything up
to, but not including, powering up and defaulting to the grub screen
after I upgraded, not a fresh install, to
On 10/02/2014 01:54 PM, Kenneth Harrison wrote:
On 10/2/14, Dan McGhee wrote:
On 10/02/2014 07:17 AM, Dan McGhee wrote:
On 10/02/2014 02:28 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
If you write the hint, I'll be glad to review it, but I probably
won't test it. I don't want to re-enable uefi on my laptop. I hav
On 10/2/14, Dan McGhee wrote:
> On 10/02/2014 07:17 AM, Dan McGhee wrote:
>> On 10/02/2014 02:28 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
>>> If you write the hint, I'll be glad to review it, but I probably
>>> won't test it. I don't want to re-enable uefi on my laptop. I have no
>>> use for it.
>> Thanks for this.
On 10/02/2014 07:17 AM, Dan McGhee wrote:
On 10/02/2014 02:28 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
If you write the hint, I'll be glad to review it, but I probably
won't test it. I don't want to re-enable uefi on my laptop. I have no
use for it.
Thanks for this. As far as UEFI and testing the hint, do you ha
On 10/02/2014 02:28 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Dan McGhee wrote:
On 09/29/2014 05:45 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Dan McGhee wrote:
On 09/29/2014 02:45 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
We'll take this a step at a time. First upgrade the package with
current instructions that expect uefi to be missing or disabl
Dan McGhee wrote:
On 09/29/2014 05:45 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Dan McGhee wrote:
On 09/29/2014 02:45 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
We'll take this a step at a time. First upgrade the package with
current instructions that expect uefi to be missing or disabled. Then
we can do a hint for uefi. Finally,
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> Bryan Kadzban wrote:
>> Dan McGhee wrote:
>
>>> insmod video_cirrus
>>
>> Cirrus is definitely an old video chipset. I therefore also suspect
>> this is a hardware specific driver.
>
> Cirrus is the default video emulation for qemu.
...OH! That makes way more sense th
Bryan Kadzban wrote:
Dan McGhee wrote:
insmod video_cirrus
Cirrus is definitely an old video chipset. I therefore also suspect this is a
hardware specific driver.
Cirrus is the default video emulation for qemu.
-- Bruce
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FAQ: ht
On 09/30/2014 09:27 PM, Bryan Kadzban wrote:
Dan McGhee wrote:
insmod ieee1275_fb
IEEE 1275 is the Open Firmware spec. Not sure if OF applies to x86 or not
though.
insmod vbe
VESA BIOS extensions, aka "video modes better than the original VGA spec's
640x480" (by ... 4 bit color I
Dan McGhee wrote:
> insmod ieee1275_fb
IEEE 1275 is the Open Firmware spec. Not sure if OF applies to x86 or not
though.
> insmod vbe
VESA BIOS extensions, aka "video modes better than the original VGA spec's
640x480" (by ... 4 bit color I think?)
> insmod vga
Given that VBE is ab
In preparing to work on the hint for "GRUB and UEFI" I want to "reduce"
my grub.cgf so that I can present a "write your own grub.cfg" just as in
Ch.8. Grub needs a video mode for UEFI and I was successful in
generating a "suitable video mode" from the grub command line when I was
experimenting
Dan McGhee wrote:
On 09/29/2014 05:45 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Dan McGhee wrote:
We'll take this a step at a time. First upgrade the package with
current instructions that expect uefi to be missing or disabled. Then
we can do a hint for uefi. Finally, hopefully before the next release
next Marc
On 09/29/2014 05:45 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Dan McGhee wrote:
On 09/29/2014 02:45 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Dan McGhee wrote:
I was able to achieve my "grub and uefi" goals using this package.
Apparently, it is the result of some serious EFI work by the grub
developers.
Dan, I'm looking at upgra
Dan McGhee wrote:
On 09/29/2014 02:45 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Dan McGhee wrote:
I was able to achieve my "grub and uefi" goals using this package.
Apparently, it is the result of some serious EFI work by the grub
developers.
Dan, I'm looking at upgrading LFS to grub-2.02~beta2. What options do
On 09/29/2014 03:21 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Mattias Schlenker wrote:
Am 29.09.2014 um 21:45 schrieb Bruce Dubbs:
What I'm not sure about is the --disable-efiemu switch. Did you need
to enable efiemu?
--enable-efiemu was once intended to help developing for UEFI on BIOS by
emulating some EFI f
On 09/29/2014 02:45 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Dan McGhee wrote:
I was able to achieve my "grub and uefi" goals using this package.
Apparently, it is the result of some serious EFI work by the grub
developers.
Dan, I'm looking at upgrading LFS to grub-2.02~beta2. What options do
you use? Right no
Mattias Schlenker wrote:
Am 29.09.2014 um 21:45 schrieb Bruce Dubbs:
What I'm not sure about is the --disable-efiemu switch. Did you need
to enable efiemu?
--enable-efiemu was once intended to help developing for UEFI on BIOS by
emulating some EFI features. Using this parameters should not b
Am 29.09.2014 um 21:45 schrieb Bruce Dubbs:
What I'm not sure about is the --disable-efiemu switch. Did you need
to enable efiemu?
--enable-efiemu was once intended to help developing for UEFI on BIOS by
emulating some EFI features. Using this parameters should not be
necessary in producti
Dan McGhee wrote:
I was able to achieve my "grub and uefi" goals using this package.
Apparently, it is the result of some serious EFI work by the grub
developers.
Dan, I'm looking at upgrading LFS to grub-2.02~beta2. What options do
you use? Right now we have:
./configure --prefix=/usr
Am 29.09.2014 um 09:09 schrieb Richard Melville:
PS: And that's not all. About two years ago noone thought anyone
would be mad enough selling 32 bit EFI anymore (I've seen Apples
32 bit UEFI and some rather broken 32 bit UEFI implementations on
some ca. 2010 Asus notebooks/netboo
>
> PS: And that's not all. About two years ago noone thought anyone would be
> mad enough selling 32 bit EFI anymore (I've seen Apples 32 bit UEFI and
> some rather broken 32 bit UEFI implementations on some ca. 2010 Asus
> notebooks/netbooks). But with Intels Clover Trail Bay Trail architecture,
Am 27.09.2014 um 22:29 schrieb Dan McGhee:
I was able to achieve my "grub and uefi" goals using this package.
Apparently, it is the result of some serious EFI work by the grub
developers.
I know that UEFI is still pretty much a "magic, black box," but I'm
sure the firmware will proliferate si
On 09/27/2014 06:59 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Dan McGhee wrote:
On 09/27/2014 04:00 PM, Armin K. wrote:
On 09/27/2014 10:29 PM, Dan McGhee wrote:
I was able to achieve my "grub and uefi" goals using this package.
Apparently, it is the result of some serious EFI work by the grub
developers.
I kno
Dan McGhee wrote:
On 09/27/2014 04:00 PM, Armin K. wrote:
On 09/27/2014 10:29 PM, Dan McGhee wrote:
I was able to achieve my "grub and uefi" goals using this package.
Apparently, it is the result of some serious EFI work by the grub
developers.
I know that UEFI is still pretty much a "magic, b
On 09/27/2014 04:00 PM, Armin K. wrote:
On 09/27/2014 10:29 PM, Dan McGhee wrote:
I was able to achieve my "grub and uefi" goals using this package.
Apparently, it is the result of some serious EFI work by the grub
developers.
I know that UEFI is still pretty much a "magic, black box," but I'm
On 09/27/2014 10:29 PM, Dan McGhee wrote:
> I was able to achieve my "grub and uefi" goals using this package.
> Apparently, it is the result of some serious EFI work by the grub
> developers.
>
> I know that UEFI is still pretty much a "magic, black box," but I'm sure
> the firmware will prolifer
I was able to achieve my "grub and uefi" goals using this package.
Apparently, it is the result of some serious EFI work by the grub
developers.
I know that UEFI is still pretty much a "magic, black box," but I'm sure
the firmware will proliferate since its advent with Win-8x machines. As
a
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