Re: [lfs-dev] grub with uefi for LFS 10?

2020-08-07 Thread Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev
On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 at 22:51, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev wrote: > > > I think it might be better to put EFI grub and its dependencies into BLFS. > > There > > is BLFS #5379 (opened 6 years ago). If Bruce agrees I'll change the > > milestone > > to 10.1 (10.0 will be too hurry) and do it. And, Willi

Re: [lfs-dev] grub with uefi for LFS 10?

2020-08-05 Thread charles--- via lfs-dev
AMTo: lfs-dev@lists.linuxfromscratch.org;Cc: Bruce Dubbs;Subject:Re: [lfs-dev] grub with uefi for LFS 10?On 8/5/20 2:25 AM, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: > On 2020-08-05 14:37 +0800, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev wrote: >> On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 at 00:46, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev >> wr

Re: [lfs-dev] grub with uefi for LFS 10?

2020-08-05 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 8/5/20 2:25 AM, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: On 2020-08-05 14:37 +0800, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev wrote: On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 at 00:46, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: It's nearly impossible. If we do that we'll have to introduce at least five new packages: dosfstools, popt, pciutils, efivar, a

Re: [lfs-dev] grub with uefi for LFS 10?

2020-08-05 Thread Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev
On 2020-08-05 14:26 +0800, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev wrote: > On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 at 04:32, Timothy Russo via lfs-dev > wrote: > > With efi being more the standard now, I'd like to ask if we could default > > grub to supporting uefi instead of having to use the uefi hint. > > > > Or at last maybe

Re: [lfs-dev] grub with uefi for LFS 10?

2020-08-05 Thread Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev
On 2020-08-05 14:37 +0800, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev wrote: > On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 at 00:46, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev > wrote: > > It's nearly impossible. If we do that we'll have to introduce at least five > > new > > packages: dosfstools, popt, pciutils, efivar, and efibootmgr. Pciutils is > > reco

Re: [lfs-dev] grub with uefi for LFS 10?

2020-08-04 Thread Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev
On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 at 00:46, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: > > It's nearly impossible. If we do that we'll have to introduce at least five > new > packages: dosfstools, popt, pciutils, efivar, and efibootmgr. Pciutils is > recommended to be installed along with "which" (it's a package's name), a

Re: [lfs-dev] grub with uefi for LFS 10?

2020-08-04 Thread Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev
On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 at 04:32, Timothy Russo via lfs-dev wrote: > > With efi being more the standard now, I'd like to ask if we could default > grub to supporting uefi instead of having to use the uefi hint. > > Or at last maybe formalize it and make it an option, where you can pick > bios/mbr or

Re: [lfs-dev] grub with uefi for LFS 10?

2020-08-02 Thread Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev
On 2020-08-02 22:19 +0100, Ken Moffat via lfs-dev wrote: > On Sun, Aug 02, 2020 at 10:07:23PM +0200, Alexey Orishko via lfs-dev wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 6:46 PM Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev > > wrote: > > > > > > Since majority of new laptops have EFI, it would really help to have > > > The re

Re: [lfs-dev] grub with uefi for LFS 10?

2020-08-02 Thread Ken Moffat via lfs-dev
On Sun, Aug 02, 2020 at 10:07:23PM +0200, Alexey Orishko via lfs-dev wrote: > On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 6:46 PM Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev > wrote: > > > > Since majority of new laptops have EFI, it would really help to have > > The readers who don't need EFI will be annoyed. meson/ninja already > > a

Re: [lfs-dev] grub with uefi for LFS 10?

2020-08-02 Thread Alexey Orishko via lfs-dev
On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 6:46 PM Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: > > Since majority of new laptops have EFI, it would really help to have > The readers who don't need EFI will be annoyed. meson/ninja already annoyed > the readers using sysvinit. Quote from Linux From Scratch - Version SVN-20200721

Re: [lfs-dev] grub with uefi for LFS 10?

2020-08-02 Thread Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev
On 2020-08-02 17:08 +0200, Alexey Orishko via lfs-dev wrote: > On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 11:49 PM Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev > wrote: > > The only reason to use uefi is if you want to dual boot to Windows. It > > complicates LFS and will interfere with learning how simple a boot can be. > > > >--

Re: [lfs-dev] grub with uefi for LFS 10?

2020-08-02 Thread Alexey Orishko via lfs-dev
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 11:49 PM Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev wrote: > The only reason to use uefi is if you want to dual boot to Windows. It > complicates LFS and will interfere with learning how simple a boot can be. > >-- Bruce I was about to post a question, when I saw this discussion. There m

Re: [lfs-dev] grub with uefi for LFS 10?

2020-08-01 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 8/1/20 3:10 PM, Timothy Russo via lfs-dev wrote: With efi being more the standard now, I'd like to ask if we could default grub to supporting uefi instead of having to use the uefi hint. Or at last maybe formalize it and make it an option, where you can pick bios/mbr or uefi option. The o

Re: [lfs-dev] grub with uefi for LFS 10?

2020-08-01 Thread Ken Moffat via lfs-dev
On Sat, Aug 01, 2020 at 03:10:54PM -0500, Timothy Russo via lfs-dev wrote: > With efi being more the standard now, I'd like to ask if we could default > grub to supporting uefi instead of having to use the uefi hint. > > Or at last maybe formalize it and make it an option, where you can pick > bio

[lfs-dev] grub with uefi for LFS 10?

2020-08-01 Thread Timothy Russo via lfs-dev
With efi being more the standard now, I'd like to ask if we could default grub to supporting uefi instead of having to use the uefi hint. Or at last maybe formalize it and make it an option, where you can pick bios/mbr or uefi option. Just a thought. Thanks, Tim Russo -- http://lists.linuxfrom

Re: [lfs-dev] grub

2016-07-31 Thread Bruce Dubbs
William Harrington wrote: On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 14:42:05 -0500 Bruce Dubbs wrote: From the lfs point of view, I didn't notice any change when we did the last update to beta2. Upstream does not seen to be very interested in releases. 2.00 was 2013, as was 2.02-beta2. beta3 was in February of t

Re: [lfs-dev] grub

2016-07-31 Thread William Harrington
On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 14:42:05 -0500 Bruce Dubbs wrote: > From the lfs point of view, I didn't notice any change when we did the > last update to beta2. > > Upstream does not seen to be very interested in releases. 2.00 was 2013, > as was 2.02-beta2. beta3 was in February of this year. I monit

[lfs-dev] grub

2016-07-31 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Looking for opinions. Should we update grub from beta2 to beta3? From the lfs point of view, I didn't notice any change when we did the last update to beta2. Upstream does not seen to be very interested in releases. 2.00 was 2013, as was 2.02-beta2. beta3 was in February of this year. I mo

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-10-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Dan McGhee wrote: On 10/23/2014 05:54 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: I read through the hint. I don't really have any comments on the content, but I do on some of the presentation--mostly minor. I'll wait though until you reformat so we don't go through it multiple times. OK. Hope I fixed it. Le

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-10-24 Thread Richard Melville
> > > Your Hint, Your License - I guess you do not want people to > > modify what you have written ? > > I have problems with licenses and copy rights. That’s why I like open > source so much. It is a requirement of the format of the hint to reference > a license, and although I did not read this

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-10-24 Thread Dan McGhee
> On Oct 23, 2014, at 21:28, Ken Moffat wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 06:30:58PM -0500, Dan McGhee wrote: >> > >> USING GRUB ON UEFI >> >> >> AUTHOR: Dan McGhee >> AUTHOR: Dan McGhee >> > > Ah, trying to not publish your email. In that case, you will > probably not want to host a P

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-10-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 06:30:58PM -0500, Dan McGhee wrote: > > I'm also going to "make it prettier" and more readable. Ultimately, I want > to supply a "Table of Contents" so that it can be searchable in a browser or > text editor. I want to accomplish this before it's published, hopefully > abo

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-10-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Dan McGhee wrote: OK. Hope I fixed it. Let's try again. Just so this doesn't get lost in the thread I'm going to test the hint on an LFS-SVN jhalfs build. The purpose is to nail down the initial location of unicode.pf2 so that grub finds it during "make install" and "grub-install." I'm

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-10-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Dan McGhee wrote: On 10/23/2014 05:54 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: I read through the hint. I don't really have any comments on the content, but I do on some of the presentation--mostly minor. I'll wait though until you reformat so we don't go through it multiple times. OK. Hope I fixed it. Le

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-10-23 Thread Dan McGhee
On 10/23/2014 05:54 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: I read through the hint. I don't really have any comments on the content, but I do on some of the presentation--mostly minor. I'll wait though until you reformat so we don't go through it multiple times. OK. Hope I fixed it. Let's try again. Ob

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-10-23 Thread Dan McGhee
> On Oct 23, 2014, at 17:12, Ken Moffat wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 04:59:05PM -0500, Dan McGhee wrote: >>> >>> ĸen - currently _suffering_ for his love of UTF-8 ;) >> >> I like UTF-8 also, but there are so many warnings in BLFS that I don’t use >> it on my laptop. > > Unless you use

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-10-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Dan McGhee wrote: On Oct 23, 2014, at 16:11, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Dan McGhee wrote: I have attached a copy of the draft grub hint for review and comment. Please reply to this list for any and all comments except negative ones. Please address those to my sister who is an active employee of W

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-10-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 04:59:05PM -0500, Dan McGhee wrote: > > > > ĸen - currently _suffering_ for his love of UTF-8 ;) > > I like UTF-8 also, but there are so many warnings in BLFS that I don’t use it > on my laptop. Unless you use problematic (and very old) packages, I will suggest that UTF

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-10-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: This looks ok to me : it seems to be plain text (I did not check the line width). To be honest, Bruce's "accented a letters plus random extra letters" look similar to what happens when people try to read UTF-8 text in legacy encodings. Right. However the hints should be i

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-10-23 Thread Dan McGhee
> On Oct 23, 2014, at 16:47, Ken Moffat wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 04:26:15PM -0500, Dan McGhee wrote: >>> >>> I haven't yet had a chance to actually read the hint, but the format is >>> wrong. It is not ASCII and the lines exceed 80 characters. >>> >>> There are a ton of sequences l

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-10-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 04:26:15PM -0500, Dan McGhee wrote: > > > > I haven't yet had a chance to actually read the hint, but the format is > > wrong. It is not ASCII and the lines exceed 80 characters. > > > > There are a ton of sequences like: â~@~ What did you use to compose the > > hint?

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-10-23 Thread Dan McGhee
> On Oct 23, 2014, at 16:11, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > Dan McGhee wrote: > >> I have attached a copy of the draft grub hint for review and comment. Please >> reply to this list for any and all comments except negative ones. Please >> address those to my sister who is an active employee of WWE an

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-10-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Dan McGhee wrote: I have attached a copy of the draft grub hint for review and comment. Please reply to this list for any and all comments except negative ones. Please address those to my sister who is an active employee of WWE and has made several TV appearances. :) OK, seriously, I will ap

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-10-23 Thread Dan McGhee
> On Oct 23, 2014, at 11:24, Tim Tassonis wrote: > > > On October 23, 2014 5:40:49 PM Dan McGhee wrote: > > > > On Oct 17, 2014, at 11:48, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > > > > > Dan McGhee wrote: > > >> > > I have attached a copy of the draft grub hint for review and comment. > > Please reply to

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-10-23 Thread Dan McGhee
On Oct 17, 2014, at 11:48, Bruce Dubbs wrote:Dan McGhee wrote:On 10/02/2014 02:28 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:Dan McGhee wrote:On 09/29/2014 05:45 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:Dan McGhee wrote:On 09/29/2014 02:45 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:We'll take this a step at a time. First upgrade the p

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-10-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Dan McGhee wrote: On 10/02/2014 02:28 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Dan McGhee wrote: On 09/29/2014 05:45 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Dan McGhee wrote: On 09/29/2014 02:45 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: We'll take this a step at a time. First upgrade the package with current instructions that expect uefi to b

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-10-17 Thread Dan McGhee
On 10/02/2014 02:28 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Dan McGhee wrote: On 09/29/2014 05:45 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Dan McGhee wrote: On 09/29/2014 02:45 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: We'll take this a step at a time. First upgrade the package with current instructions that expect uefi to be missing or disabl

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-10-12 Thread Pierre Labastie
Le 12/10/2014 16:10, Dan McGhee a écrit : > > On Oct 12, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Pierre Labastie wrote: > >> [...] > Pierre, this is really, really helpful. Thanks. > > As soon as I can get all my computer things ironed out, I’ll be able to > finish the hint. It’s original goal was to do what you

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-10-12 Thread Dan McGhee
On Oct 12, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Pierre Labastie wrote: > I replaced the motherboard of my computer, which was dying. So now I have a > new one with UEFI firmware, which prompted me to try to use it. Problem is, > right now, I am only able to run in legacy mode. > > But what I have done, which may

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-10-12 Thread Pierre Labastie
Le 02/10/2014 17:27, Dan McGhee a écrit : > On 10/02/2014 07:17 AM, Dan McGhee wrote: >> On 10/02/2014 02:28 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >>> If you write the hint, I'll be glad to review it, but I probably won't test >>> it. I don't want to re-enable uefi on my laptop. I have no use for it. >> Thanks fo

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-10-03 Thread Dan McGhee
On 10/03/2014 03:47 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Craig Magee wrote: On 3 October 2014 22:10, Mattias Schlenker wrote: On UEFI you could do the same: Add LFS to an existing GRUB. On the other hand you could add an GRUBX64.EFI as LFSX64.EFI to the list of UEFI bootloaders via efibootmgr. On a fre

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-10-03 Thread Craig Magee
On 4 October 2014 09:47, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > Building a custom kernel to embed a PARTUUUID is not my idea of convenient. I never said it was. But then building Linux isn't the most convenient way to install it either, and installing Linux on a Windows 8 box is even less. In the last paragra

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-10-03 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Craig Magee wrote: On 3 October 2014 22:10, Mattias Schlenker wrote: On UEFI you could do the same: Add LFS to an existing GRUB. On the other hand you could add an GRUBX64.EFI as LFSX64.EFI to the list of UEFI bootloaders via efibootmgr. On a fresh machine with just LFS and no other systems y

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-10-03 Thread Craig Magee
On 3 October 2014 22:10, Mattias Schlenker wrote: > > On UEFI you could do the same: Add LFS to an existing GRUB. On the other > hand you could add an GRUBX64.EFI as LFSX64.EFI to the list of UEFI > bootloaders via efibootmgr. On a fresh machine with just LFS and no other > systems you would prob

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-10-03 Thread Mattias Schlenker
Am 02.10.2014 um 17:27 schrieb Dan McGhee: I've been thinking about what I said here. The statement "I can't test it...," is not complete. I can test, and have tested, everything up to, but not including, powering up and defaulting to the grub screen after I upgraded, not a fresh install, to

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-10-02 Thread Dan McGhee
On 10/02/2014 01:54 PM, Kenneth Harrison wrote: On 10/2/14, Dan McGhee wrote: On 10/02/2014 07:17 AM, Dan McGhee wrote: On 10/02/2014 02:28 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: If you write the hint, I'll be glad to review it, but I probably won't test it. I don't want to re-enable uefi on my laptop. I hav

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-10-02 Thread Kenneth Harrison
On 10/2/14, Dan McGhee wrote: > On 10/02/2014 07:17 AM, Dan McGhee wrote: >> On 10/02/2014 02:28 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >>> If you write the hint, I'll be glad to review it, but I probably >>> won't test it. I don't want to re-enable uefi on my laptop. I have no >>> use for it. >> Thanks for this.

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-10-02 Thread Dan McGhee
On 10/02/2014 07:17 AM, Dan McGhee wrote: On 10/02/2014 02:28 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: If you write the hint, I'll be glad to review it, but I probably won't test it. I don't want to re-enable uefi on my laptop. I have no use for it. Thanks for this. As far as UEFI and testing the hint, do you ha

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-10-02 Thread Dan McGhee
On 10/02/2014 02:28 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Dan McGhee wrote: On 09/29/2014 05:45 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Dan McGhee wrote: On 09/29/2014 02:45 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: We'll take this a step at a time. First upgrade the package with current instructions that expect uefi to be missing or disabl

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-10-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Dan McGhee wrote: On 09/29/2014 05:45 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Dan McGhee wrote: On 09/29/2014 02:45 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: We'll take this a step at a time. First upgrade the package with current instructions that expect uefi to be missing or disabled. Then we can do a hint for uefi. Finally,

Re: [lfs-dev] Grub Video Modules

2014-10-01 Thread Bryan Kadzban
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Bryan Kadzban wrote: >> Dan McGhee wrote: > >>> insmod video_cirrus >> >> Cirrus is definitely an old video chipset. I therefore also suspect >> this is a hardware specific driver. > > Cirrus is the default video emulation for qemu. ...OH! That makes way more sense th

Re: [lfs-dev] Grub Video Modules

2014-10-01 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Bryan Kadzban wrote: Dan McGhee wrote: insmod video_cirrus Cirrus is definitely an old video chipset. I therefore also suspect this is a hardware specific driver. Cirrus is the default video emulation for qemu. -- Bruce -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: ht

Re: [lfs-dev] Grub Video Modules

2014-10-01 Thread Dan McGhee
On 09/30/2014 09:27 PM, Bryan Kadzban wrote: Dan McGhee wrote: insmod ieee1275_fb IEEE 1275 is the Open Firmware spec. Not sure if OF applies to x86 or not though. insmod vbe VESA BIOS extensions, aka "video modes better than the original VGA spec's 640x480" (by ... 4 bit color I

Re: [lfs-dev] Grub Video Modules

2014-09-30 Thread Bryan Kadzban
Dan McGhee wrote: > insmod ieee1275_fb IEEE 1275 is the Open Firmware spec. Not sure if OF applies to x86 or not though. > insmod vbe VESA BIOS extensions, aka "video modes better than the original VGA spec's 640x480" (by ... 4 bit color I think?) > insmod vga Given that VBE is ab

[lfs-dev] Grub Video Modules

2014-09-30 Thread Dan McGhee
In preparing to work on the hint for "GRUB and UEFI" I want to "reduce" my grub.cgf so that I can present a "write your own grub.cfg" just as in Ch.8. Grub needs a video mode for UEFI and I was successful in generating a "suitable video mode" from the grub command line when I was experimenting

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-09-29 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Dan McGhee wrote: On 09/29/2014 05:45 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Dan McGhee wrote: We'll take this a step at a time. First upgrade the package with current instructions that expect uefi to be missing or disabled. Then we can do a hint for uefi. Finally, hopefully before the next release next Marc

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-09-29 Thread Dan McGhee
On 09/29/2014 05:45 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Dan McGhee wrote: On 09/29/2014 02:45 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Dan McGhee wrote: I was able to achieve my "grub and uefi" goals using this package. Apparently, it is the result of some serious EFI work by the grub developers. Dan, I'm looking at upgra

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-09-29 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Dan McGhee wrote: On 09/29/2014 02:45 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Dan McGhee wrote: I was able to achieve my "grub and uefi" goals using this package. Apparently, it is the result of some serious EFI work by the grub developers. Dan, I'm looking at upgrading LFS to grub-2.02~beta2. What options do

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-09-29 Thread Dan McGhee
On 09/29/2014 03:21 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Mattias Schlenker wrote: Am 29.09.2014 um 21:45 schrieb Bruce Dubbs: What I'm not sure about is the --disable-efiemu switch. Did you need to enable efiemu? --enable-efiemu was once intended to help developing for UEFI on BIOS by emulating some EFI f

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-09-29 Thread Dan McGhee
On 09/29/2014 02:45 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Dan McGhee wrote: I was able to achieve my "grub and uefi" goals using this package. Apparently, it is the result of some serious EFI work by the grub developers. Dan, I'm looking at upgrading LFS to grub-2.02~beta2. What options do you use? Right no

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-09-29 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Mattias Schlenker wrote: Am 29.09.2014 um 21:45 schrieb Bruce Dubbs: What I'm not sure about is the --disable-efiemu switch. Did you need to enable efiemu? --enable-efiemu was once intended to help developing for UEFI on BIOS by emulating some EFI features. Using this parameters should not b

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-09-29 Thread Mattias Schlenker
Am 29.09.2014 um 21:45 schrieb Bruce Dubbs: What I'm not sure about is the --disable-efiemu switch. Did you need to enable efiemu? --enable-efiemu was once intended to help developing for UEFI on BIOS by emulating some EFI features. Using this parameters should not be necessary in producti

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-09-29 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Dan McGhee wrote: I was able to achieve my "grub and uefi" goals using this package. Apparently, it is the result of some serious EFI work by the grub developers. Dan, I'm looking at upgrading LFS to grub-2.02~beta2. What options do you use? Right now we have: ./configure --prefix=/usr

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-09-29 Thread Mattias Schlenker
Am 29.09.2014 um 09:09 schrieb Richard Melville: PS: And that's not all. About two years ago noone thought anyone would be mad enough selling 32 bit EFI anymore (I've seen Apples 32 bit UEFI and some rather broken 32 bit UEFI implementations on some ca. 2010 Asus notebooks/netboo

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-09-29 Thread Richard Melville
> > PS: And that's not all. About two years ago noone thought anyone would be > mad enough selling 32 bit EFI anymore (I've seen Apples 32 bit UEFI and > some rather broken 32 bit UEFI implementations on some ca. 2010 Asus > notebooks/netbooks). But with Intels Clover Trail Bay Trail architecture,

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-09-28 Thread Mattias Schlenker
Am 27.09.2014 um 22:29 schrieb Dan McGhee: I was able to achieve my "grub and uefi" goals using this package. Apparently, it is the result of some serious EFI work by the grub developers. I know that UEFI is still pretty much a "magic, black box," but I'm sure the firmware will proliferate si

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-09-27 Thread Dan McGhee
On 09/27/2014 06:59 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Dan McGhee wrote: On 09/27/2014 04:00 PM, Armin K. wrote: On 09/27/2014 10:29 PM, Dan McGhee wrote: I was able to achieve my "grub and uefi" goals using this package. Apparently, it is the result of some serious EFI work by the grub developers. I kno

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-09-27 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Dan McGhee wrote: On 09/27/2014 04:00 PM, Armin K. wrote: On 09/27/2014 10:29 PM, Dan McGhee wrote: I was able to achieve my "grub and uefi" goals using this package. Apparently, it is the result of some serious EFI work by the grub developers. I know that UEFI is still pretty much a "magic, b

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-09-27 Thread Dan McGhee
On 09/27/2014 04:00 PM, Armin K. wrote: On 09/27/2014 10:29 PM, Dan McGhee wrote: I was able to achieve my "grub and uefi" goals using this package. Apparently, it is the result of some serious EFI work by the grub developers. I know that UEFI is still pretty much a "magic, black box," but I'm

Re: [lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-09-27 Thread Armin K.
On 09/27/2014 10:29 PM, Dan McGhee wrote: > I was able to achieve my "grub and uefi" goals using this package. > Apparently, it is the result of some serious EFI work by the grub > developers. > > I know that UEFI is still pretty much a "magic, black box," but I'm sure > the firmware will prolifer

[lfs-dev] grub-2.02~beta2

2014-09-27 Thread Dan McGhee
I was able to achieve my "grub and uefi" goals using this package. Apparently, it is the result of some serious EFI work by the grub developers. I know that UEFI is still pretty much a "magic, black box," but I'm sure the firmware will proliferate since its advent with Win-8x machines. As a