Re: [lfs-dev] Reduce Temporary System Components and Reorder Basic System Software

2020-05-09 Thread Zhang Wen via lfs-dev
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Re: [lfs-dev] Reduce Temporary System Components and Reorder Basic System Software

2020-05-09 Thread Zhang Wen via lfs-dev
To my understanding, the temporary system built in chapter 5 can be copied to any other computer, and we can use this temporary system to finish the whole system. Without building xz in chapter 5, what if i accidentally delete files in source directory of xz on another computer? Firas Khalil Khana

Re: [lfs-dev] Reduce Temporary System Components and Reorder Basic System Software

2020-05-09 Thread Firas Khalil Khana via lfs-dev
On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 4:57 AM Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: > > On 2020-05-06 14:16 +0300, Firas Khalil Khana via lfs-dev wrote: > > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 1:56 PM Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: > > > Pierre recently discovered the circular dependency between eudev (in > > > Sysvinit > > > book) and

Re: [lfs-dev] Reduce Temporary System Components and Reorder Basic System Software

2020-05-08 Thread Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev
On 2020-05-06 14:16 +0300, Firas Khalil Khana via lfs-dev wrote: > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 1:56 PM Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: > > Pierre recently discovered the circular dependency between eudev (in > > Sysvinit > > book) and util-linux: > > > > > util-linux uses libudev (eudev) in lsblk (with fa

Re: [lfs-dev] Reduce Temporary System Components and Reorder Basic System Software

2020-05-06 Thread Firas Khalil Khana via lfs-dev
On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 1:56 PM Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: > > On 2020-05-06 13:02 +0300, Firas Khalil Khana via lfs-dev wrote: > > On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 6:40 PM Douglas R. Reno via lfs-dev > > wrote: > > > > > > On 5/5/20 5:49 AM, Firas Khalil Khana via lfs-dev wrote: > > > > > > @Xi, > > > >

Re: [lfs-dev] Reduce Temporary System Components and Reorder Basic System Software

2020-05-06 Thread Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev
On 2020-05-06 13:02 +0300, Firas Khalil Khana via lfs-dev wrote: > On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 6:40 PM Douglas R. Reno via lfs-dev > wrote: > > > > On 5/5/20 5:49 AM, Firas Khalil Khana via lfs-dev wrote: > > > > @Xi, > > > > Thanks for taking the time to explain everything, much appreciated! > > >

Re: [lfs-dev] Reduce Temporary System Components and Reorder Basic System Software

2020-05-06 Thread Firas Khalil Khana via lfs-dev
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 6:40 PM Douglas R. Reno via lfs-dev wrote: > > > On 5/5/20 5:49 AM, Firas Khalil Khana via lfs-dev wrote: > > @Xi, > > Thanks for taking the time to explain everything, much appreciated! > > > > Then it will be stupidly inconvenience typing commands. > > It will still get yo

Re: [lfs-dev] Reduce Temporary System Components and Reorder Basic System Software

2020-05-05 Thread Douglas R. Reno via lfs-dev
On 5/5/20 5:49 AM, Firas Khalil Khana via lfs-dev wrote: @Xi, Thanks for taking the time to explain everything, much appreciated! > Then it will be stupidly inconvenience typing commands. It will still get you through until bash is rebuilt again in Chapter 6, with no problems. That being

Re: [lfs-dev] Reduce Temporary System Components and Reorder Basic System Software

2020-05-05 Thread Firas Khalil Khana via lfs-dev
> So I see you point is to reorder the packages in Chap. 6 to reduce packages in > Chap. 5. But I still believe we shouldn't put many packages to before final > GCC. That may cause ICA failures. Precisely! And I've managed to compiler everything from start to finish with no errors (didn't run th

Re: [lfs-dev] Reduce Temporary System Components and Reorder Basic System Software

2020-05-05 Thread Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev
On 2020-05-05 13:49 +0300, Firas Khalil Khana via lfs-dev wrote: > @Xi, > > Thanks for taking the time to explain everything, much appreciated! > > > > Then it will be stupidly inconvenience typing commands. > > It will still get you through until bash is rebuilt again in Chapter 6, with > no p

Re: [lfs-dev] Reduce Temporary System Components and Reorder Basic System Software

2020-05-05 Thread Firas Khalil Khana via lfs-dev
@Xi, Thanks for taking the time to explain everything, much appreciated! > Then it will be stupidly inconvenience typing commands. It will still get you through until bash is rebuilt again in Chapter 6, with no problems. That being said, I think Ncurses can't be dropped in Chapter 5 because Py

Re: [lfs-dev] Reduce Temporary System Components and Reorder Basic System Software

2020-05-05 Thread Firas Khalil Khana via lfs-dev
@Ken, Thanks for your much appreciated response! I'm not talking about any particular plans. I'm not changing anything in the way LFS is being built. I'm just removing packages from the temporary tools in Chapter 5 that aren't needed in Chapter 6 because they'll be built again there. Regarding

Re: [lfs-dev] Reduce Temporary System Components and Reorder Basic System Software

2020-05-04 Thread Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev
On 2020-05-04 20:39 +0300, Firas Khalil Khana via lfs-dev wrote: > Hey there, > > My name is Firas Khalil Khana, and I'm the creator of glaucus. > > I'd like to salute your efforts for keeping this project awesome this whole > time! The shear amount of information in a single place like LFS is tr

Re: [lfs-dev] Reduce Temporary System Components and Reorder Basic System Software

2020-05-04 Thread Ken Moffat via lfs-dev
On Mon, May 04, 2020 at 08:39:24PM +0300, Firas Khalil Khana via lfs-dev wrote: > Hey there, > > My name is Firas Khalil Khana, and I'm the creator of glaucus > . > > I'd like to salute your efforts for keeping this project awesome this whole > time! The shear amoun