Re: Proper choice of package management strategy

2007-01-19 Thread Zeb Packard
Sounds perfect! No I hadn't checked it out, but thanks I definitely will look at it. On 1/19/07, Amadeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Zeb Packard wrote: > > The one thing I would really like though, is some sort of general > > "here's how to handle dependancies in PM" > > > Umm, sorry to say this

Re: Can't get kbd to behave the right way !!

2007-01-19 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 02:33:57PM -0500, Kevin Williams wrote: > > You mean, you can't get kdm up and running with BLFS at all ? I don't see no > reason why it shouldn't work ! Right after installing kde, I got kdm up and > running without any problems. > > I wanted to have the flexibility to

Re: Proper choice of package management strategy

2007-01-19 Thread Amadeus
Zeb Packard wrote: > The one thing I would really like though, is some sort of general > "here's how to handle dependancies in PM" > Umm, sorry to say this again, but have you checked out www.pkgsrc.org? It compiles everything from source, including needed dependencies and comes with pkg_add/r

Re: Can't get kbd to behave the right way !!

2007-01-19 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 1/19/07, Kevin Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Alexander is the guy you'd want to talk to here. The console/kbd is > > voodoo to me. But, if you read through /etc/rc.d/init.d/console, you > > can start to put together the process. And, yes, the console behavior > > is closely tied to t

Re: Proper choice of package management strategy

2007-01-19 Thread Zeb Packard
First of I'd like to thank you for compaining about Ubuntu fanboyism I've been thinking much the same thing for months now. On 1/19/07, Nadav Vinik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The different distro don't define only with their PM. Yeah, I know, but the PM is an integral part of having a unique di

Re: Proper choice of package management strategy

2007-01-19 Thread Nadav Vinik
The different distro don't define only with their PM. most of the PM`s converted from one distro to another, therefore there is apt to rpm. The also smart and more common PM. Moreover, choosing in apt don't make your distro Debian since Debian compile to i386 and I quite sure that you don't have

Re: Udev & CUPS Problem

2007-01-19 Thread alupu
Hi Ken, First, thanks again for your interest and words. I'm quickly cutting to the chase now: The printing is fixed! All I did was to simply delete it ('lpadmin -x ') and then run the _exact_ command I once used to install it (I keep records :-). Absolutely no any other action whatsoever, n

Re: Proper choice of package management strategy

2007-01-19 Thread Zeb Packard
My two cents. I'm on my second installation of lfs/blfs, and this time my goal was to expand on what I had learned before and make the system more manageable. This included installing and using a package manager of some sort. I considered package_users, apt, portage, rpm, and yast. Apt and Porta

Re: Proper choice of package management strategy

2007-01-19 Thread Tushar Teredesai
On 1/17/07, Benedikt Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Currently, I feel most attracted to the "Separate dir" or "Symlink Style" > possibilities, unless you strongly recommend sth else... I would suggest the fakeroot approach. That approach is used by most (all?) major distros. So it is easy

Can't get kbd to behave the right way !!

2007-01-19 Thread Kevin Williams
I had started a thread in November last year with the title "Probs with Kbd Layout, sudo and kpowersave !!". Though the sudo and kpowersave were resolved, the kbd issue still is haunting me !! I have SuSE 10.2, gentoo and BLFS installed on my laptop. While SuSE and gentoo (and others like Mand

Re: Anyone using gnome 2.16?

2007-01-19 Thread Randy McMurchy
Amadeus wrote these words on 01/19/07 10:41 CST: > I was intending to try to build gnome 2.16 just following the above > instructions for 2.14 and hoping not to come across any snags. I forgot to mention that 2.16 will require updated versions of at least Glib and GTK+. Perhaps other packages as

Re: Anyone using gnome 2.16?

2007-01-19 Thread Randy McMurchy
Amadeus wrote these words on 01/19/07 10:41 CST: > I was intending to try to build gnome 2.16 just following the above > instructions for 2.14 and hoping not to come across any snags. You will come across snags in dependencies, and missing packages (2.16 has dropped some and added new packages).

Anyone using gnome 2.16?

2007-01-19 Thread Amadeus
Hello, I was wondering if anyone is using gnome 2.16 as http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/ refers to 2.14. I was intending to try to build gnome 2.16 just following the above instructions for 2.14 and hoping not to come across any snags. If anyone else has any tips they would be we

Re: Distribute my BLFS

2007-01-19 Thread Rick Shelton
On 1/19/07, Gerardo Medellin Hdez. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, I've a BLFS system working pretty good, but now i want to make a Install > Disk to distribute it, somebody know how to make it, any tip or trick is > welcome. > > Tank's. > the following hint might be a good starting point: http://

Distribute my BLFS

2007-01-19 Thread Gerardo Medellin Hdez.
Hi, I've a BLFS system working pretty good, but now i want to make a Install Disk to distribute it, somebody know how to make it, any tip or trick is welcome. Tank's. __ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis!

Re: Proper choice of package management strategy

2007-01-19 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 1/17/07, Benedikt Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The Book excludes any recommendations about which pack'man' to use, which > doesn't make it easy for newbies. So, I have (1) the suggestion to the Book's > developers to add a "if you don't know at all, take this strategy" sentence Now

Re: Proper choice of package management strategy

2007-01-19 Thread Juaco
of course everyone has freedom of choice! Wasn't my intention to stand for this PMS like an Ubuntu user does for it's distro (and it was funny to read). I was only replying to your points with what i had to say about them. About the point you are making now, that is not the job of the PMS to

Re: Proper choice of package management strategy

2007-01-19 Thread Nadav Vinik
I really don't understand you. It's Linux From Scratch - Your distro, Your rules. It is the best freedom that have. You are no better than all the Ubuntu users who think their distro is the only one and interrupt to any discussion which someone accidentally think to use in other distro. The use

Re: Proper choice of package management strategy

2007-01-19 Thread Juaco
En 18/01/2007 11:19:33, Nadav Vinik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > There two reasons for installing LFS: > 1. To study how Gnu/Linux system work. Exactly! But how you will do the study? If not reading on books, then the best is to try to actually use the system, in real world tasks. > 2. To d

Re: Proper choice of package management strategy

2007-01-19 Thread Juaco
En 19/01/2007 04:46:13, Dave Abergel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > Juaco > > Juaco wrote: >> That is the truth. If you have decided to use LFS anyway, what did you >> expect...wizards to install/manage your sw? > > I never said that I expected anything else! In fact my build differed > from the

Re: Udev & CUPS Problem

2007-01-19 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 08:07:17PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Dan, Ken, Randy: > > Thank you very much for your interest in the subject. > Unfortunately your comments while very interesting and meaningful haven't > helped in moved me any closer to solving the problem. > Except Dan's "try r

Re: Error Grub

2007-01-19 Thread Matthias Feichtinger
Am Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 07:42:15AM +0100 schrieb Vince Greg in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Is it dangerous for my datas and all the work I do??? What about cfdisk? AFAIK no danger just in looking at partition table, just beware of "write" Only XP doesn't accept partions and formating by cfdisk ;-) --

Re: Udev & CUPS Problem

2007-01-19 Thread Alan Lord
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > No matter how you cut it, the new Udev must be at the core of the problem. > Think of it this way. I have a perfectly functional system with applications > A to Z running on it just fine. I install/upgrade application U without > conscientiously touching anything els