Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-12-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Alan Feuerbacher wrote: On 11/25/2013 8:40 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Alan Feuerbacher wrote: On 11/25/2013 11:50 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Dan McGhee wrote: r8169 71677 0 mii13527 1 r8169 Looking at the help in the kernel for CONFIG_R8169: Selects:

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-29 Thread Simon Geard
On Thu, 2013-11-28 at 10:28 +, akhiezer wrote: You're expending resources to try to persuade people that there's no issue here. I'm not trying to persuade anyone anything... I'm trying to understand why this is considered such an important thing, why it comes up again and again as a source

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-29 Thread akhiezer
From: Simon Geard delga...@ihug.co.nz To: lfs-support@linuxfromscratch.org Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 21:23:05 +1300 Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found On Thu, 2013-11-28 at 10:28 +, akhiezer wrote: You're expending resources to try to persuade people that there's no issue

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-28 Thread akhiezer
From lfs-support-boun...@linuxfromscratch.org Wed Nov 27 23:33:32 2013 Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 17:13:29 -0600 From: Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com To: LFS Support List lfs-support@linuxfromscratch.org Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found Gordon Findlay wrote: That's

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-28 Thread Pierre Labastie
Le 28/11/2013 10:48, akhiezer a écrit : I think the _prime_ example actually would be Slackware, in this and many other instances. Any prime example on an LFS mail list is LFS ;-) Sorry, couldn't refrain... Pierre -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ:

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-28 Thread akhiezer
From lfs-support-boun...@linuxfromscratch.org Wed Nov 27 11:07:47 2013 From: Simon Geard delga...@ihug.co.nz To: lfs-support@linuxfromscratch.org Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 23:46:50 +1300 Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found On Tue, 2013-11-26 at 13:27 -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-27 Thread Simon Geard
On Tue, 2013-11-26 at 19:24 +, akhiezer wrote: that particular machine; or what? It's an intriguing concept - *never* needing to know the name of network device(s) on one's Linux computer, and for someone like yourself who would appear to be an (=)advanced user. Like I said... other

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-27 Thread Simon Geard
On Tue, 2013-11-26 at 13:27 -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: The wording in this message comes across a little too strong. Yes, we sometimes get a little emotional about the foolishness that we see, but lets try to be a little more civil when discussing technical matters. That's kind of what

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-27 Thread Baho Utot
On 11/26/2013 09:23 PM, William Harrington wrote: On Nov 26, 2013, at 6:19 PM, Baho Utot wrote: Want to bet which one of these I can remember? p33p1 for people! Nope too many characters -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ:

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-27 Thread Gordon Findlay
That's kind of what confuses me about this whole issue... the degree to which discussions here and elsewhere get so heated and angry. It's obviously supremely important to some people - but I don't understand why, when to me it seems such a small thing. Simon. I teach Linux, and this

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-27 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Gordon Findlay wrote: That's kind of what confuses me about this whole issue... the degree to which discussions here and elsewhere get so heated and angry. It's obviously supremely important to some people - but I don't understand why, when to me it seems such a small thing. I teach

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-26 Thread Simon Geard
On Mon, 2013-11-25 at 20:18 -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: I know the answer to that one. To ensure that really big iron with many ethernet devices will not have ethx assigned in random order due to race conditions. It probably comes up more frequently when using systemd which launches

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-26 Thread Simon Geard
On Mon, 2013-11-25 at 20:12 -0500, Alan Feuerbacher wrote: On 11/25/2013 11:04 AM, William Harrington wrote: Your link name is p4p1. How does this name, given by Fedora, relate to the enp3s0 that my kernel assigned (see my earlier reply to Fernando). Looks like Fedora uses a different

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-26 Thread Dan McGhee
On 11/26/2013 10:34 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Simon Geard wrote: On Mon, 2013-11-25 at 20:18 -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: I know the answer to that one. To ensure that really big iron with many ethernet devices will not have ethx assigned in random order due to race conditions. It probably comes

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-26 Thread akhiezer
From: Simon Geard delga...@ihug.co.nz To: lfs-support@linuxfromscratch.org Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 21:05:53 +1300 Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found . . But really, what's wrong with it? All the melodrama, talking about abominations and complaining about

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-26 Thread Bruce Dubbs
akhiezer wrote: From: Simon Geard delga...@ihug.co.nz To: lfs-support@linuxfromscratch.org Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 21:05:53 +1300 Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found . . But really, what's wrong with it? All the melodrama, talking about abominations

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-26 Thread akhiezer
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 13:27:26 -0600 From: Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com To: LFS Support List lfs-support@linuxfromscratch.org Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found . . The wording in this message comes across a little too strong. Yes, we sometimes get

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-26 Thread Baho Utot
On 11/26/2013 03:09 AM, Simon Geard wrote: On Mon, 2013-11-25 at 20:12 -0500, Alan Feuerbacher wrote: On 11/25/2013 11:04 AM, William Harrington wrote: Your link name is p4p1. How does this name, given by Fedora, relate to the enp3s0 that my kernel assigned (see my earlier reply to

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-26 Thread William Harrington
On Nov 26, 2013, at 6:19 PM, Baho Utot wrote: Want to bet which one of these I can remember? p33p1 for people! -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-25 Thread Alan Feuerbacher
On 11/24/2013 2:33 PM, Pierre Labastie wrote: Le 24/11/2013 19:24, David Kredba a écrit : Do you have pciutils installed? If not install it (you can use liveCD or what you used to do first installation and chroot inside your current system or download it and copy in if you have USB storage

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-25 Thread Fernando de Oliveira
Em 25-11-2013 11:59, Alan Feuerbacher escreveu: On 11/24/2013 2:33 PM, Pierre Labastie wrote: Le 24/11/2013 19:24, David Kredba a écrit : Before that and if you are still on LFS: ip link list ### 1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-25 Thread William Harrington
On Nov 25, 2013, at 8:59 AM, Alan Feuerbacher wrote: 2: p4p1: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP group default qlen 1000 link/ether 30:85:a9:8f:31:09 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 10.0.1.31/24 brd 10.0.1.255 scope global p4p1 valid_lft forever

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-25 Thread Dan McGhee
Please excuse the top post. I've done it for a reason. Alan, you have gotten a number of great suggestions from some really helpful people. I think, however, that the waters are very muddy right now. The main problem is that your system can't find your ethernet card--eth0. That's the first

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Alan Feuerbacher wrote: r8169 71677 0 This is what you need to configure in your kernel. Use y and not m. Then when you boot, you should see a device in /sys/class/net. It may be p4p1 or something else. You should have a file /etc/sysconfig/ifconfig.eth0 ONBOOT=yes

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Dan McGhee wrote: Please excuse the top post. I've done it for a reason. Alan, you have gotten a number of great suggestions from some really helpful people. I think, however, that the waters are very muddy right now. The main problem is that your system can't find your ethernet

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-25 Thread Fernando de Oliveira
Em 25-11-2013 13:27, Dan McGhee escreveu: Please excuse the top post. I've done it for a reason. Alan, you have gotten a number of great suggestions from some really helpful people. I think, however, that the waters are very muddy right now. The main problem is that your system can't

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-25 Thread Dan McGhee
On 11/25/2013 12:46 PM, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Em 25-11-2013 15:22, Dan McGhee escreveu: On 11/25/2013 11:05 AM, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Em 25-11-2013 13:27, Dan McGhee escreveu: It can find the interface. Replying to Ken, Alan wrote: Em 24-11-2013 14:04, Alan Feuerbacher

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Dan McGhee wrote: I hope he either gets his card to come up or posts the results of 'dmesg | grep Ethernet' to determine whether the driver was loaded. That may work for the Realtek driver, but it is not universal. I get no output at all for that expression. I have: e1000e: Intel(R)

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-25 Thread Alan Feuerbacher
On 11/25/2013 10:15 AM, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Em 25-11-2013 11:59, Alan Feuerbacher escreveu: 2: p4p1: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/ether 30:85:a9:8f:31:09 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff I think that if you

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-25 Thread Alan Feuerbacher
On 11/25/2013 11:04 AM, William Harrington wrote: On Nov 25, 2013, at 8:59 AM, Alan Feuerbacher wrote: 2: p4p1: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP group default qlen 1000 link/ether 30:85:a9:8f:31:09 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 10.0.1.31/24 brd

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-25 Thread Alan Feuerbacher
On 11/25/2013 11:27 AM, Dan McGhee wrote: Alan, you have gotten a number of great suggestions from some really helpful people. I think, however, that the waters are very muddy right now. The main problem is that your system can't find your ethernet card--eth0. That's the first goal. After

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-25 Thread Alan Feuerbacher
On 11/25/2013 11:32 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Alan Feuerbacher wrote: r8169 71677 0 This is what you need to configure in your kernel. Use y and not m. Done. My earlier emails indicate that I've gotten the card working. Then when you boot, you should see a device in

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Alan Feuerbacher wrote: On 11/25/2013 11:50 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Dan McGhee wrote: r8169 71677 0 mii13527 1 r8169 Looking at the help in the kernel for CONFIG_R8169: Selects: FW_LOADER [=y] CRC32 [=y] MII [=y] How does one access this help?

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-25 Thread Fernando de Oliveira
Em 25-11-2013 21:44, Alan Feuerbacher escreveu: On 11/25/2013 10:15 AM, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Em 25-11-2013 11:59, Alan Feuerbacher escreveu: 2: p4p1: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/ether

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Alan Feuerbacher wrote: On 11/25/2013 11:27 AM, Dan McGhee wrote: Alan, you have gotten a number of great suggestions from some really helpful people. I think, however, that the waters are very muddy right now. The main problem is that your system can't find your ethernet card--eth0.

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-25 Thread Fernando de Oliveira
Em 25-11-2013 22:37, Bruce Dubbs escreveu: Alan Feuerbacher wrote: $ cat /etc/resolv.conf domain linuxfromscratch.org nameserver 8.8.4.4 nameserver 8.8.8.8 Bruce, I use OpenDNS: 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220 I am telling it because I thing it is better something Open than google. But i am

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-25 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 07:44:16PM -0500, Alan Feuerbacher wrote: Apparently things in the linux world have changed recently with respect to naming devices generally, so that old conventions like eth0 have been replaced by conventions that are said to make more sense. I suppose enp3s0

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-25 Thread Fernando de Oliveira
Em 25-11-2013 22:37, Bruce Dubbs escreveu: Alan Feuerbacher wrote: $ cat /etc/resolv.conf domain linuxfromscratch.org nameserver 8.8.4.4 nameserver 8.8.8.8 Bruce, I use OpenDNS: 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220 I am telling it because I think it is better something Open than google. But I am

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 07:44:16PM -0500, Alan Feuerbacher wrote: Apparently things in the linux world have changed recently with respect to naming devices generally, so that old conventions like eth0 have been replaced by conventions that are said to make more sense. I

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-24 Thread Alan Feuerbacher
On 11/24/2013 12:19 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Alan Feuerbacher wrote: Can anyone clue me in? It sounds like you don't have the right ethernet driver built. We recommend building it into the kernel. Ok, then I must have missed something when building the system. What do I look for in the LFS

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-24 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 09:33:54AM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Alan Feuerbacher wrote: On 11/24/2013 12:19 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Alan Feuerbacher wrote: Can anyone clue me in? It sounds like you don't have the right ethernet driver built. We recommend building it into the kernel.

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-24 Thread Alan Feuerbacher
On 11/24/2013 10:33 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Alan Feuerbacher wrote: On 11/24/2013 12:19 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Per Ken's suggestion, I added the ethernet driver for my Realtek ethernet device, recompiled the kernel, reinstalled systemd/udev from scratch. Still no luck. When linux starts, I

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-24 Thread David Kredba
Do you have pciutils installed? If not install it (you can use liveCD or what you used to do first installation and chroot inside your current system or download it and copy in if you have USB storage working etc.). Then start in single mode and post output of lspci -v. David 2013/11/24 Alan

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-24 Thread Pierre Labastie
Le 24/11/2013 19:24, David Kredba a écrit : Do you have pciutils installed? If not install it (you can use liveCD or what you used to do first installation and chroot inside your current system or download it and copy in if you have USB storage working etc.). Then start in single mode and

[lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-23 Thread Alan Feuerbacher
Howdy, Now that my shiny new LFS system is more or less running, I'm trying to get all of the bits and pieces runnning. The system seems unable to find the ethernet card. The card is actually built into the mother board -- a Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411. After following the LFS book's

Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found

2013-11-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Alan Feuerbacher wrote: Howdy, Now that my shiny new LFS system is more or less running, I'm trying to get all of the bits and pieces runnning. The system seems unable to find the ethernet card. The card is actually built into the mother board -- a Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411. After