Re: [Libav-user] FFmpeg License Violation - What Are My Remedies?

2012-10-17 Thread Nicolas George
Le primidi 21 vendémiaire, an CCXXI, Michael Zucchi a écrit : > Of course, apk's and the android shop are somewhat problematic wrt > to the second point. If you used the 'shop', then you actually got > the application from google. So you are quite entitled to ask > google for the source as they w

Re: [Libav-user] FFmpeg License Violation - What Are My Remedies?

2012-10-12 Thread Michael Zucchi
On 11/10/12 04:04, Matthew Lawrence wrote: I recently purchased an app from Google Play that incorporates the FFmpeg library. Because the app is a derivative work under the LGPLv2.1, I believe I am entitled to a copy of the source code for the entire app. I have e-mailed the developer's support

Re: [Libav-user] FFmpeg License Violation - What Are My Remedies?

2012-10-11 Thread Carl Eugen Hoyos
Hi Lou! Lou writes: > The Hall of Shame no longer exists (a page > exists without entries, but I think it is > orphaned from the menu/legal page). > It was a maintenance burden, Sorry, but this is simply not true. > its effectiveness was questionable, >and it was getting really long. And

Re: [Libav-user] FFmpeg License Violation - What Are My Remedies?

2012-10-11 Thread Nicolas George
Le nonidi 19 vendémiaire, an CCXXI, Michael Bradshaw a écrit : > Sorry, I meant the only two things I see as options for the FFmpeg > project is putting them on a wall of shame or hiring a lawyer and > suing, neither of which I expect to happen. I didn't word that very > well. In this particular c

Re: [Libav-user] FFmpeg License Violation - What Are My Remedies?

2012-10-11 Thread Michael Bradshaw
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Lou wrote: > On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Michael Bradshaw wrote: > >> Sorry, I meant the only two things I see as options for the FFmpeg >> project is putting them on a wall of shame or hiring a lawyer and >> suing, neither of which I expect to happen. I didn

Re: [Libav-user] FFmpeg License Violation - What Are My Remedies?

2012-10-11 Thread Lou
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Michael Bradshaw wrote: > Sorry, I meant the only two things I see as options for the FFmpeg > project is putting them on a wall of shame or hiring a lawyer and > suing, neither of which I expect to happen. I didn't word that very > well. The Hall of Shame no long

Re: [Libav-user] FFmpeg License Violation - What Are My Remedies?

2012-10-11 Thread Eric P. Mangold
You could start by CC'ing the party in question. On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:34:16PM -0500, Matthew Lawrence wrote: > I recently purchased an app from Google Play that incorporates the FFmpeg > library. Because the app is a derivative work under the LGPLv2.1, I > believe I am entitled to a copy o

Re: [Libav-user] FFmpeg License Violation - What Are My Remedies?

2012-10-11 Thread Nicolas George
Le nonidi 19 vendémiaire, an CCXXI, Matthew Lawrence a écrit : > I recently purchased an app from Google Play that incorporates the FFmpeg > library. Because the app is a derivative work under the LGPLv2.1, I > believe I am entitled to a copy of the source code for the entire app. I > have e-mail

Re: [Libav-user] FFmpeg License Violation - What Are My Remedies?

2012-10-10 Thread Michael Bradshaw
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Michael Bradshaw wrote: > On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Matthew Lawrence > wrote: >>[...] > >> What steps can I take (other than hiring a lawyer) to assert my rights? > > Pretty much nothing. You can ask for it all you want, and they can say > no all they want

Re: [Libav-user] FFmpeg License Violation - What Are My Remedies?

2012-10-10 Thread Michael Bradshaw
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Matthew Lawrence wrote: >[...] > What steps can I take (other than hiring a lawyer) to assert my rights? Pretty much nothing. You can ask for it all you want, and they can say no all they want. IANAL, so I've no clue who's in the right, but if you really want it

Re: [Libav-user] FFmpeg License Violation - What Are My Remedies?

2012-10-10 Thread Carl Eugen Hoyos
Matthew Lawrence writes: > I recently purchased an app from Google Play that > incorporates the FFmpeg library.  Because the app is a > derivative work under the LGPLv2.1, I believe I am > entitled to a copy of the source code for the entire app. Apart from what was already said (LGPL does no

Re: [Libav-user] FFmpeg License Violation - What Are My Remedies?

2012-10-10 Thread Alex Cohn
On 10 Oct 2012 21:09, "Matthew Lawrence" wrote: > > Can you provide a citation for your claim? > > Section 5 of the LGPLv2.1 states in part: > > "5. A program that contains no derivative of any portion of the Library, but > is designed to work with the Library by being compiled or linked with it,

Re: [Libav-user] FFmpeg License Violation - What Are My Remedies?

2012-10-10 Thread Camera Man
On 10/10/2012 03:09 PM, Matthew Lawrence wrote: Under the first paragraph, the app is a "work that uses the Library".  However, because the work is distributed together with the Library in a single executable (DEX file within an APK), the work is not "in isolation"

Re: [Libav-user] FFmpeg License Violation - What Are My Remedies?

2012-10-10 Thread Edward Richards
Then talk to a lawyer about your rights to sue if that's your interpretation. Do you even know if it is statically linked? Because the free software foundation consensus is that runtime linking is ok since YOU the user is doing the violation not the deployment media. Besides...Bringing it up he

Re: [Libav-user] FFmpeg License Violation - What Are My Remedies?

2012-10-10 Thread Matthew Lawrence
Can you provide a citation for your claim? Section 5 of the LGPLv2.1 states in part: "5. A program that contains no derivative of any portion of the Library, but is designed to work with the Library by being compiled or linked with it, is called a "work that uses the Library". Such a work, in iso

Re: [Libav-user] FFmpeg License Violation - What Are My Remedies?

2012-10-10 Thread Phil Turmel
On 10/10/2012 01:34 PM, Matthew Lawrence wrote: > I recently purchased an app from Google Play that incorporates the FFmpeg > library. Because the app is a derivative work under the LGPLv2.1, I > believe I am entitled to a copy of the source code for the entire app. I > have e-mailed the develope

Re: [Libav-user] FFmpeg License Violation - What Are My Remedies?

2012-10-10 Thread Gonzalo Garramuño
El 10/10/2012 02:34 p.m., Matthew Lawrence escribió: I recently purchased an app from Google Play that incorporates the FFmpeg library. Because the app is a derivative work under the LGPLv2.1, I believe I am entitled to a copy of the source code for the entire app. I have e-mailed the develop

[Libav-user] FFmpeg License Violation - What Are My Remedies?

2012-10-10 Thread Matthew Lawrence
I recently purchased an app from Google Play that incorporates the FFmpeg library. Because the app is a derivative work under the LGPLv2.1, I believe I am entitled to a copy of the source code for the entire app. I have e-mailed the developer's support staff, but they are refusing to release the