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ITU Approves Deep Packet Inspection
Posted by Soulskill on Tuesday December 04, @08:19PM
from the inspect-my-encryption-all-you'd-like dept.
dsinc sends this quote from Techdirt about the International
Telecommu
Eugen Leitl:
ITU Approves Deep Packet Inspection
I have been trying to get more information on this for days. Slashdot
only links to CDT and Techdirt, with Techdirt only relying on CDT. So
the base source for all three is this:
https://www.cdt.org/blogs/cdt/2811adoption-traffic-sniffing-stan
..on Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 10:27:53AM +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote:
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> ITU Approves Deep Packet Inspection
I guess the 'optional' part of IPSec in IPv6 just became a little more
political.
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Am 05.12.2012 10:27, schrieb Eugen Leitl:
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/12/05/0115214/itu-approves-deep-packet-inspection
ITU Approves Deep Packet Inspection
Posted by Soulskill on Tuesday December 04, @08:19PM
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I'm seriously not clear
What legitimate uses do you see?
On 12/5/2012 10:34, Petter Ericson wrote:
> There are legitimate uses for DPI,
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> >> Internet is now governed.
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> >> Am I on target here?
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> >> On Dec 5, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Cynthia Wong wrote:
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> >> > The final version of the standard should show up here... eventu
Transparent IPv4-to-IPv6 tunneling, detection of certain
forms of abuse, QoS modificaton, traffic monitoring and
shaping.
Obviouly, these are mostly happening at a firewall or
equivalent, which is kind of the point. Very little DPI
is legitimate in core networking.
/P
On 05 December, 2012 - W
Well perhaps I'm over my head here, not really my field but it seems
that with the exception of some forms of abuse all these can be done by
inspecting the packet headers. My understanding of DPI, as Deep Packet
Inspection was looking at the content not just the routing and protocol
information.
O
..on Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 11:37:16AM -0800, Wayne Moore wrote:
> Well perhaps I'm over my head here, not really my field but it seems
> that with the exception of some forms of abuse all these can be done by
> inspecting the packet headers. My understanding of DPI, as Deep Packet
> Inspection was l
Hi all,
I'd be interested in knowing if this document specifies any retention
capabilities / requirements. My concern is with DPI appliances like
the Bivio NetFalcon which promise much great and actionable traffic
logging for lawful access, see:
http://www.cert.org/flocon/2011/presentations/Ebrahim
On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 07:27:27PM +0100, Christian Fuchs wrote:
> If this approval by the ITU is true - then it is no surprise at all,
> but what one would expect. What else has the ITU in the past ever
> been than an instrument that supports capitalist interests and
> commodification of the ICT a
On 05 December, 2012 - Pavol Luptak wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 07:27:27PM +0100, Christian Fuchs wrote:
> > If this approval by the ITU is true - then it is no surprise at all,
> > but what one would expect. What else has the ITU in the past ever
> > been than an instrument that supports cap
Latest copy of the ITU's DPI recommendations:
http://brendan.so/2012/12/06/leak-draft-new-recommendation-itu-t-y-2770-formerly-y-dpireq/
- Asher Wolf
On 6/12/12 9:41 AM, Petter Ericson wrote:
> On 05 December, 2012 - Pavol Luptak wrote:
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>> On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 07:27:27PM +0100, Christi
Hi,
Le 05/12/2012 23:10, Pavol Luptak a écrit :
> On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 07:27:27PM +0100, Christian Fuchs wrote:
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> DPI censorship is not a 'competitive' advantage, so it's quite likely that
> in a pure market society ('anarchocapitalism') without strong socialistic
> governments and t
..on Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 01:19:47PM +0100, KheOps wrote:
> Hi,
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> Le 05/12/2012 23:10, Pavol Luptak a écrit :
> > On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 07:27:27PM +0100, Christian Fuchs wrote:
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> [...]
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> > DPI censorship is not a 'competitive' advantage, so it's quite likely that
> > in a pure marke
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On 6/12/12 11:19 PM, KheOps wrote:
> I'd say it can happen for purely economic reasons. For instance,
> in France, some ISPs used to have marketing agreements with
> Dailymotion and consequently slowed down Youtube access.
>
> Another exemple is th
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On 12/06/2012 01:40 PM, Asher Wolf wrote:
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> * DPI-based policing of peer-to-peer traffic * Services-based
> billing
That is all in, Asher, but everything starts on these 90 or so pages
with identifying crypto protocols and the matching of "signa
Good work Asher *high five*
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/12/06/dpi_standard_leaked/
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> On 6/12/12 11:19 PM, KheOps wrote:
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> > I'd say it can happen for purely economic reasons. For instance,
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woah, just read the translation. thank you.
On 7/12/12 2:21 AM, Erich M. wrote:
> On 12/06/2012 01:40 PM, Asher Wolf wrote:
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>> * DPI-based policing of peer-to-peer traffic * Services-based
>> billing
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> That is all in, Asher, but everythin
On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 08:28:36PM +0100, Petter Ericson wrote:
> Transparent IPv4-to-IPv6 tunneling, detection of certain
> forms of abuse, QoS modificaton, traffic monitoring and
> shaping.
>
> Obviouly, these are mostly happening at a firewall or
> equivalent, which is kind of the point. Very
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On 12/06/2012 04:31 PM, Asher Wolf wrote:
> woah, just read the translation. thank you.
Compliment in return! Great to discuss this here. Apparently the doq
has surfaced in Australia and Austria around the same time via
different channels. Good Omen ;
On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 01:11:08PM -0500, Nicholas Judd wrote:
> If I could tap into your hive-mind intelligence for a moment to help me
> be more precise about explaining why this is an issue, I would appreciate it
> ...
Others have articulated a number of reasons for this already,
so I'll attem
Hi,
On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 01:19:47PM +0100, KheOps wrote:
> > DPI censorship is not a 'competitive' advantage, so it's quite likely that
> > in a pure market society ('anarchocapitalism') without strong socialistic
> > governments and their stupid Internet regulations, most Internet providers
On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 01:25:46PM +0100, Julian Oliver wrote:
> Great examples.
>
> I've often experienced what appears to be severe throttling of an Alice DSL
> connection (Germany) after using bittorrent, whether that be to download a
> Linux
> ISO or otherwise. It persists for an hour or so
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