[liberationtech] Euclid Analytics

2013-06-21 Thread Daniel Sieradski
Has anyone heard about this company Euclid Analytics? Apparently they track individual behavior over WIFI by logging your phone's MAC address and storing info on where you shop and for how long. http://euclidanalytics.com/product/zero/ -- Daniel Sieradski d...@danielsieradski.com

Re: [liberationtech] Euclid Analytics

2013-06-21 Thread Matt Johnson
So do we all need to generate random MAC addresses now? I don't think you can do that on an iPhone though. -- Matt Johnson On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Daniel Sieradski d...@danielsieradski.com wrote: Has anyone heard about this company Euclid Analytics? Apparently they track

Re: [liberationtech] Euclid Analytics

2013-06-21 Thread Joseph Lorenzo Hall
Yes, Euclid has been around for a bit, and attracting the ire of US Senator Al Franken... Franken wrote a letter with a bunch of questions and Euclid responded. Franken was not impressed: (links in original) http://www.franken.senate.gov/?p=press_releaseid=2341 Sen. Franken Calls for End to

Re: [liberationtech] Euclid Analytics

2013-06-21 Thread Daniel Sieradski
Ironic that Franken opposes this but is defending the NSA. -- Daniel Sieradski d...@danielsieradski.com http://danielsieradski.com 315.889.1444 Follow me at http://twitter.com/selfagency Public key http://danielsieradski.com/share/ds_public.key On Jun 21, 2013, at 1:32 PM, Joseph Lorenzo Hall

Re: [liberationtech] Euclid Analytics

2013-06-21 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:25:21AM -0700, Matt Johnson wrote: So do we all need to generate random MAC addresses now? I don't think you can do that on an iPhone though. MACs are easy, and they're limited-scope, anyway. Much better would be a daemon that mutates your IMEI on a daily, or hourly

Re: [liberationtech] Euclid Analytics

2013-06-21 Thread Daniel Sieradski
Or you can just turn your WiFi off when you're not using it. :) -- Daniel Sieradski d...@danielsieradski.com http://danielsieradski.com 315.889.1444 Follow me at http://twitter.com/selfagency Public key http://danielsieradski.com/share/ds_public.key On Jun 21, 2013, at 2:40 PM, Eugen Leitl

Re: [liberationtech] Euclid Analytics

2013-06-21 Thread Matt Johnson
Mutating IMEI's is interesting. How does that work on phone networks? Can you phone connect with out a recognizable IMEI? Doesn't your IMSI identify you anyway? You can change your SIM, but I don't think you can spoof it, right? -- Matt Johnson On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Eugen Leitl