Re: [liberationtech] How to make the Internet secure

2017-02-03 Thread Karl Semich
Hi Rich, What you describe here sounds exciting to me. I am very interested in communication solutions that prioritize all of sneakernet, encryption, and conventional use. I was wondering if you know of any modern sneakernet resources, or up-and-coming systems which support this? Right now I

Re: [liberationtech] How to make the Internet secure

2017-02-03 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 9:04 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > > Many of these kinds of proposals are wonderfully thought out BUT > they presume underlying network infrastructure that (a) exists > (b) has sufficient performance (c) is not heavily censored/blocked > (d) is not heavily monitored/surveilled

Re: [liberationtech] How to make the Internet secure

2017-02-03 Thread Rich Kulawiec
Many of these kinds of proposals are wonderfully thought out BUT they presume underlying network infrastructure that (a) exists (b) has sufficient performance (c) is not heavily censored/blocked (d) is not heavily monitored/surveilled. The problem with that, as everyone here probably knows all to

Re: [liberationtech] How to make the Internet secure

2017-02-02 Thread Aymeric Vitte
The name is a coincidence and the former project has a very little to do with what I sent, there is an entityID concept in the proposal instead of a CA one, since the later obviously can't work with entities that can't have a valid certificate, entityIDs could be combined with let's encrypt Le 02

Re: [liberationtech] How to make the Internet secure

2017-02-02 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
You probably want to look at this proposal by Moxie, he has already used the name convergence and while that project is dead, the Certificate Transparency standard is based on it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convergence_(SSL) I am not looking at the transport layer right now. If a transport of

Re: [liberationtech] How to make the Internet secure

2017-02-02 Thread Aymeric Vitte
Please find here: http://www.peersm.com/Convergence.pdf a proposal addressing all of what you are discussing here and even more (IOT, crypto money, etc), writen for some fundings opportunities but that did not make it so far for some administrative reasons + apparently some misunderstanding regardi

Re: [liberationtech] How to make the Internet secure

2017-02-01 Thread carlo von lynX
Hello Phillip, nice reading your feedback. On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 03:21:52PM -0500, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: > ​I believe that mail, chat, voice, video, blog comments and mailing lists > are all separate messaging modalities that need to be addressed in any > replacement scheme. However, there

Re: [liberationtech] How to make the Internet secure

2017-02-01 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 2:15 PM, carlo von lynX wrote: > Coming from: Phillip Hallam-Baker > > One of the big problems I have found in trying to argue for ways we can > > improve Internet security is that there are two camps. The > incrementalists > > will only look at solutions that provide an i

Re: [liberationtech] How to make the Internet secure

2017-02-01 Thread carlo von lynX
Coming from: Phillip Hallam-Baker > One of the big problems I have found in trying to argue for ways we can > improve Internet security is that there are two camps. The incrementalists > will only look at solutions that provide an improvement on the status qujo > in one area and the perfectionists

[liberationtech] How to make the Internet secure

2017-02-01 Thread Yosem Companys
From: Phillip Hallam-Baker One of the big problems I have found in trying to argue for ways we can improve Internet security is that there are two camps. The incrementalists will only look at solutions that provide an improvement on the status qujo in one area and the perfectionists insist that a