Re: [Libmesh-users] question on nedelec elements

2019-03-14 Thread Povolotskyi, Mykhailo
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Re: [Libmesh-users] question on nedelec elements

2019-03-14 Thread Paul T. Bauman
No I'm sorry they're not. The reason BCs/projection/periodic BCs wasn't immediately trivial is, mathematically, we can only enforce continuity of the tangential components of the solution and IIRC the was a pain to do consistently between 2D and 3D (at least enough that it wasn't something I could

Re: [Libmesh-users] question on nedelec elements

2019-03-14 Thread Michael Povolotskyi
Hello Paul, One more question, please. Are periodic boundary conditions supported for Nedelec? Michael. On 03/14/2019 03:28 PM, Paul T. Bauman wrote: On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 3:14 PM Stogner, Roy H mailto:royst...@ices.utexas.edu>> wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2019, Michael Povolotskyi wrot

Re: [Libmesh-users] question on nedelec elements

2019-03-14 Thread Vikram Garg
Hello Michael, If you want to estimate the error incurred due to the use of the penalty method in a specific functional (say Q(u)), you can do so by computing epsilon*Q( du/depsilon ). Here 1/epsilon is the penalty we are setting. The function du/depsilon is the the derivative o

Re: [Libmesh-users] question on nedelec elements

2019-03-14 Thread Paul T. Bauman
On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 3:14 PM Stogner, Roy H wrote: > > On Thu, 14 Mar 2019, Michael Povolotskyi wrote: > > > Thank you, > > No, thank Paul; reading further down the code it appears that I'm > wrong, and Paul *did* add some kind of vector-valued variable field > support to the Dirichlet code. >

Re: [Libmesh-users] question on nedelec elements

2019-03-14 Thread Stogner, Roy H
On Thu, 14 Mar 2019, Michael Povolotskyi wrote: > Thank you, No, thank Paul; reading further down the code it appears that I'm wrong, and Paul *did* add some kind of vector-valued variable field support to the Dirichlet code. vector_fe_ex2/laplace_system.C seems to be our only example of it's

Re: [Libmesh-users] question on nedelec elements

2019-03-14 Thread Michael Povolotskyi
Thank you Vikram, I'm solving the electromagnetic wave equation using Newmark system. What are forward_sensitivity_derivatives that you are talking about? Michael. On 03/14/2019 03:08 PM, Vikram Garg wrote: If you are worried about accuracy issues due to the use of penalties, then there are

Re: [Libmesh-users] question on nedelec elements

2019-03-14 Thread Vikram Garg
If you are worried about accuracy issues due to the use of penalties, then there are ways of quantifying these pretty well using forward_sensitivity_derivatives, when taken with respect the penalty. Thanks. Vikram Garg vikramvgarg.github.io/ On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 2:03 PM Michael Povolotskyi w

Re: [Libmesh-users] question on nedelec elements

2019-03-14 Thread Michael Povolotskyi
Thank you, the penalty method is what I'm currently doing. Michael. On 03/14/2019 03:00 PM, Stogner, Roy H wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2019, Michael Povolotskyi wrote: is it possible to apply dirichlet boundary conditions for Nedelec elements? I don't believe so - the former predate the latter a

Re: [Libmesh-users] question on nedelec elements

2019-03-14 Thread Stogner, Roy H
On Thu, 14 Mar 2019, Michael Povolotskyi wrote: > is it possible to apply dirichlet boundary conditions for Nedelec elements? I don't believe so - the former predate the latter and at quick glance the code seems hardcoded to expect scalar variable fields. You might be stuck using a penalty met

[Libmesh-users] question on nedelec elements

2019-03-14 Thread Michael Povolotskyi
Hello, is it possible to apply dirichlet boundary conditions for Nedelec elements? Thank you, Michael. ___ Libmesh-users mailing list Libmesh-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/libmesh-users