Hi all,
Many MS-Windows users are surprised that LibreOffice default
installation contains all dictionaries although they have the UI only in
their locale and English.
I think that default installation should contain only dictionaries in
the same languages as the UI.
Is it a bug or a feature ?
Changing the installer will invalidate the digital signature so it also is not
an option. I won't sign a third party package with my own cert...
I can only say, the OpenOffice.org(tm) team did it until 3.3. There aren't many
releases of the package considering the huge amount of work involved
Changing the installer will invalidate the digital signature so it also is
not an option.
What digital signature? We don't use any (yet).
I won't sign a third party package with my own cert...
Oh well, your choice.
I can only say, the OpenOffice.org(tm) team did it until 3.3.
Yes, but we
Threatening? You're kidding right?
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From: Tor Lillqvist [mailto:tlillqv...@novell.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 10:33 AM
To: Markus Stenzel; libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: RE: [Libreoffice] In need of windows packaging team...
Changing the installer
Is it a bug or a feature ?
It is a feature until somebody provides working code to do otherwise, and
explains why it is better.
It is an useful feature, even. See below.
Are you suggesting that we should automatically in a de-select the writing aids
for languages that don't get the UI
Hello good people, could someone review and cherry-pick for
libreoffice-3-3 branch with -s option this commit
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/filters/commit/?id=c90c5d503543a960a05b43752a5dff9ccf4bcd30
?
It basically silences warnings of casts from double to float since
libwpd's API does
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Jean-Baptiste Faure
jbf.fa...@orange.fr wrote:
Hi all,
Many MS-Windows users are surprised that LibreOffice default
installation contains all dictionaries although they have the UI only in
their locale and English.
I think that default installation should
Threatening? You're kidding right?
That's how it sounded to me. If you don't do this, I won't use your software,
neener neener
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Hi Michael,
On 29 January 2011 21:45, Steve Butler sebut...@gmail.com wrote:
I thought I would discuss your idea about not using the index at all
to see what reception it gets, but I think you may also have been
suggesting a similar thing:
are the index files even useful on modern gear?
I
Yes, but why ~20 dictionaries ? Do you know peoples who need and are
able to write twenty different languages ?
Why not? What does it hurt? (It is always possible to do a custom installation
and deselect those dictionaries one doesn't want.)
Can you come up with an algorithm for de-selecting
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 4:32 AM, Steve Butler sebut...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Michael,
On 29 January 2011 21:45, Steve Butler sebut...@gmail.com wrote:
Here's some comparison timings on the above system (measured with
gettimeofday either side of the call in swriter).
Using an INDEX FILE:
US
Hi Norbert,
I have only skimmed this thread, so forgive me if i missed the mark but:
why not generate the index at install time ?
that will still achieve the goal of reducing the size of the
installer, without the performance hit at runtime no?
The option to build the index at install
Le 30/01/2011 10:49, Tor Lillqvist a écrit :
Is it a bug or a feature ?
It is a feature until somebody provides working code to do otherwise, and
explains why it is better.
Which software is used to do the MS-Windows installer ?
It is an useful feature, even. See below.
Are you suggesting
Le 30/01/2011 12:29, Tor Lillqvist a écrit :
Yes, but why ~20 dictionaries ? Do you know peoples who need and are
able to write twenty different languages ?
Why not? What does it hurt? (It is always possible to do a custom
installation and deselect those dictionaries one doesn't want.)
Can
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 6:03 AM, Jean-Baptiste Faure
jbf.fa...@orange.fr wrote:
In my message, the problem is not the size of the installer, it is about
the number of dictionaries the MS-Win end-user has on his PC. Many of
these dictionaries being not useful for him.
Is there a severe
No, no need for an algorithm. No need to remove a dictionary from the
installer. Only ask the user what he want to have on his computer.
Try clicking the custom installation button.
But note that it is a fallacy to think that just because *some* features (like
dictionaries for individual
Le 30/01/2011 13:34, Norbert Thiebaud a écrit :
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 6:03 AM, Jean-Baptiste Faure
jbf.fa...@orange.fr wrote:
In my message, the problem is not the size of the installer, it is about
the number of dictionaries the MS-Win end-user has on his PC. Many of
these dictionaries
Hello good people and others,
Could someone please review and cherry-pick for libreoffice-3-3 branch
this commit:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/libs-gui/commit/?id=affa15b894b66b3d12d00ab1ad3c567ade88800e
It basically fixes the collation for Catalan language, so it's important :)
On 29/01/2011 04:10, r_ouellette wrote:
I checked with LO 3.3 final version (RC4) and the problem remains... It is a
regression from previous OpenOffice.org (before LO) where the file was
correctly calculated.
Using your test file from OOo bug, i've seen it doesn't hang but it's
terrible
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 7:35 AM, Kenneth Venken
kenneth.ven...@gmail.com wrote:
what's the point passing cont as a parameter if you are going to
override it's value right away ? (note: ok so, patch 0005 actually fix
that...)
these patches should be viewed as a wholel. The refactoring was a
Hi
This might be the correct list to post this:
A microsoft fanboy/employee complains on a norwegian discussion site
that you have to download the whole openoffice to upgrade or to fix
problems
(guess this applies to libreoffice too)
That is, he's complaining that to go from 3.2 to 3.2.1 he
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Arno Teigseth arnot...@gmail.com wrote:
A microsoft fanboy/employee complains on a norwegian discussion site
that you have to download the whole openoffice to upgrade or to fix
problems
+1
I agree that the idea making small patch / bug fix / enhancement and a
Now, is it possible/interesting to have such a feature, that people can
download fixes (Microsoft would call them hotfixes) to Libreoffice?
hotfixes are a completely different technology, not suitable for upgrades of
large complex software libe OOo or LibreOffice at all.
What exists, and
On Sun, 2011-01-30 at 09:25 -0700, Tor Lillqvist wrote:
Now, is it possible/interesting to have such a feature, that people can
download fixes (Microsoft would call them hotfixes) to Libreoffice?
hotfixes are a completely different technology, not suitable for upgrades
of large complex
Hey, I have found a strange bug. I don't know where there is the right
place, so I put it here.
I have an document written in MS Office 2007 (docx) witch can't be opened
in SOME cases:
- Opening it in LibreOffice 3.3 (or OO.org 3.3 RC 9) under Linux
= works well
- Opening it in OpenOffice 3.2
On 01/29/11 14:35, Kenneth Venken wrote:
2011/1/28 Michael Meeks michael.me...@novell.com
Hi there,
On Thu, 2011-01-27 at 20:55 +0100, Kenneth Venken wrote:
these patches remove some comments
from ./filters/binfilter/bf_svx/source/editeng/svx_editobj.cxx and
I've pushed these
Hi,
Received a message from a user today regarding the install instructions
within the en_US readme file covering Mandriva:
'Doing commands like su urpmi *.rpm won't work; it either has to be
sudo urpmi *.rpm or su -c urpmi *.rpm'
I have never used Mandriva so don't know and thought I'd ask
2011.01.30. 19:53 keltezéssel, drew írta:
Hi,
Received a message from a user today regarding the install instructions
within the en_US readme file covering Mandriva:
'Doing commands like su urpmi *.rpm won't work; it either has to be
sudo urpmi *.rpm or su -c urpmi *.rpm'
su urpmi is
Hi,
is there a reason why you don't use git submodule for managing the
other repos in the build repo?
Greetings
Tobias
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On Sat, 2011-01-29 at 14:00 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
Hi folks,
one of the things which always unnverved me most in OO is the fact
that it ships own copies of dozens of standard 3rd-party packages,
often very outdated and patched-to-death.
For a distro build configuring with
On Sat, 2011-01-29 at 18:03 +, Andy Holder wrote:
More simple cpp check clean ups.
All looks good, thanks for these, pushed.
The methods whose return values were taken but unused don't seem to have
any other side effects so appears that removing them, rather than just
not taking their
On Sat, 2011-01-29 at 22:30 +0100, Christina Roßmanith wrote:
Hi,
I'll strike out the files I've fixed on the list.
Pushed, thanks for this.
C.
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* Tor Lillqvist tlillqv...@novell.com schrieb:
Please, are you talking about third-party source code included
in the LibreOffice source code (git repositories), source code
downloaded as part of the build process (unless one tells it
to use a system library), or binaries from either of those
* Francois Tigeot ftig...@wolfpond.org schrieb:
Should LO be including 3rd party software to facilitate the work of people who
don't know what they are doing ?
At the cost of everybody else ? (from devs through package/dist maintainers
to end users who all have to waste lots of their
On Sat, 2011-01-29 at 22:44 +0100, Christina Roßmanith wrote:
... forgot to attach the patch in my previous posting.
Pushed the removal of unused headers. I'm sort of wary, against the
removal of the admittedly odd /*N*/, /*?*/ lines in binfilter because
a) there are *so* many of them
b) there
On Sat, 2011-01-29 at 22:49 +, Wols Lists wrote:
Just done a ./g pull -r followed by make, and I'm getting the following :-(
do a
export VERBOSE=true
and follow the build how-to at the end of the message and post that data
what this suggests is that the dir with libjawt.so in it is not in
Hi,
lines already striked out in the list.
Christina
From c81b66bcbbb4179d64815ecdcc744267c8e999af Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Christina Rossmanith chrrossman...@web.de
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 22:23:57 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] Easy hacks: removed double line spacing
---
On Sun, 2011-01-30 at 01:11 +0100, Kenneth Venken wrote:
hi,
this removes unread variable pTargetPage
from ./impress/sd/source/core/drawdoc2.cxx
It does, but do we know for a fact that it should be
-pTargetPage = GetSdPage(nPage, PK_STANDARD);
and not
-pTargetPage = GetSdPage(nPage,
* Caolán McNamara caol...@redhat.com schrieb:
For a distro build configuring with --with-system-libs will generally
do-the-right-thing.
What happens when the software depends on some ancient, long solved
bug that's maybe still in the old bundled version ? You'll have to
support both the
On Sun, 2011-01-30 at 01:35 +0100, Kenneth Venken wrote:
Hi,
this removes the unreadVariable lame_frame_size
in ./filters/filter/source/flash/swfwriter.cxx
lame_get_framesize seems to have no side-effects, so can be removed
entirely rather than just discard its unused return value.
Yup,
On Sun, 2011-01-30 at 10:51 +0100, Fridrich Strba wrote:
Hello good people, could someone review and cherry-pick
done.
C.
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* Arno Teigseth arnot...@gmail.com schrieb:
I guess it would be different if the whole windows system was set up
with packages, with version controls and this-package-depends-on
stuff. And real super-user privileges that normal lusers could not take
on...
I really wonder why Windows still
* Arno Teigseth arnot...@gmail.com schrieb:
Someone pointed out that on linux, the distribution is (can be)
package-based, so that he would avoid that.
ACK. But that still requires some refactoring of the whole build
process. See the thread on removing 3rdparty packages as a first start.
For
Can someone explain me why my patch has not been pushed ?
If I were wrong somewhere, I don't want to make the same mistake twice.
It was my first (really easy/small) patch, to learn how to procede fine.
---BeginMessage---
Hi, I removed some empty lines in few files for my first patch.
I'll
On Sun, 2011-01-30 at 22:26 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
* Caolán McNamara caol...@redhat.com schrieb:
For a distro build configuring with --with-system-libs will generally
do-the-right-thing.
What happens when the software depends on some ancient, long solved
bug that's maybe still in
On 30.01.2011 22:51, Guillaume wrote:
Can someone explain me why my patch has not been pushed ?
If I were wrong somewhere, I don't want to make the same mistake twice.
It was my first (really easy/small) patch, to learn how to procede fine.
For old legacy platforms like Windows, prefix distros frameworks
like cygwin could be used.
Hopefully you are not serious, just uninformed.
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On 28/01/11 17:14, Norbert Thiebaud wrote:
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:56 PM, Ron Houserho...@smartchat.net.au wrote:
Hi, sorry for a beginner's question, but I downloaded the libreoffice code
base from git about a month ago, and I want to update it to be the same as
the recently released
* Tor Lillqvist tlillqv...@novell.com schrieb:
For old legacy platforms like Windows, prefix distros frameworks
like cygwin could be used.
Hopefully you are not serious, just uninformed.
Actually, I'm think I'm quite well informed, and I'm really
*serious* about this.
cu
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On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Ron House rho...@smartchat.net.au wrote:
On 28/01/11 17:14, Norbert Thiebaud wrote:
[...]
I assume that's about right. But:
git-checkout libreoffice-3.3.0 origin/libreoffice-3.3.0
Said:
error: pathspec 'libreoffice-3.3.0' did not match any file(s) known to
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 1:24 AM, Enrico Weigelt weig...@metux.de wrote:
* Tor Lillqvist tlillqv...@novell.com schrieb:
For old legacy platforms like Windows, prefix distros frameworks
like cygwin could be used.
Hopefully you are not serious, just uninformed.
Actually, I'm think I'm quite
* Jesús Corrius je...@softcatala.org schrieb:
Actually, I'm think I'm quite well informed, and I'm really
*serious* about this.
Windows is not an old legacy platform.
It is. Look at their concepts which are outdated for decades.
cu
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* Caolán McNamara caol...@redhat.com schrieb:
That's the argument in favour for using --with-system-libs and its
definitely the right choice for distros.
The right choice for everybody who's not completely lobotomized ;-P
Little bit trickier when putting on a ISV hat and trying to target
* Enrico Weigelt weig...@metux.de schrieb:
* Jesús Corrius je...@softcatala.org schrieb:
Actually, I'm think I'm quite well informed, and I'm really
*serious* about this.
Windows is not an old legacy platform.
It is. Look at their concepts which are outdated for decades.
And look
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 1:37 AM, Enrico Weigelt weig...@metux.de wrote:
* Enrico Weigelt weig...@metux.de schrieb:
* Jesús Corrius je...@softcatala.org schrieb:
Actually, I'm think I'm quite well informed, and I'm really
*serious* about this.
Windows is not an old legacy platform.
On 31/01/11 10:32, Norbert Thiebaud wrote:
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Ron Houserho...@smartchat.net.au wrote:
On 28/01/11 17:14, Norbert Thiebaud wrote:
[...]
I assume that's about right. But:
git-checkout libreoffice-3.3.0 origin/libreoffice-3.3.0
Said:
error: pathspec
On Sun, 2011-01-30 at 22:36 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
To me it looks a bit ugly, but it could be just a question of replacing
the binaries/files that differ from last version. I don't know enough
about this to say if it's a Good Idea or a Bad Idea (tm)
Inherently unreliable. The only
Hi!
Is there any possibility to build the LibreOffice under the FreeBSD?
Now I get this error:
Config: --disable-binfilter --disable-crashdump --with-lang=
--disable-fetch-external --with-vba-package-format=builtin --disable-epm
--with-openldap --with-build-version=tag libreoffice-3.3.0.4
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 02:52:24AM +0300, Alexander wrote:
When user insert formula, LO can be use LaTeX and make vector graphics (SVG ?
Or may be EPS),
keep LaTeX source, put vector graphics in ODx and display it. This does
system-independent.
In ODx can keep preamble and user can edit
On Sun, 2011-01-30 at 16:38 -0500, drew wrote:
On Sun, 2011-01-30 at 20:40 +0100, Andras Timar wrote:
Updated readme file attached.
Well, sorry for the static noise on that - in pulling files together for
a distribution disc (as it seemed to be the day for everyone to do that)
I see now that
-// OD 09.01.2003 #i6467# - adjust view shell option to the same as for
print
+// adjust view shell option to the same as for print
We generally want to leave the #iX#-style comments around, as they
point to the publicly accessible OpenOffice.org issue tracker. OTOH, the
#X#
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