Re: [Libreoffice] Rationale for replacing Java with anything but c++ (was Re: web based libre office)

2011-01-28 Thread Wols Lists
On 28/01/11 14:39, Thorsten Guenther wrote: > Hi Michael, > > Am 28.01.2011 14:58, schrieb Michael Meeks: >> >> Almost certainly you want to get involved with the existing odf toolkit >> project: http://odftoolkit.org/ they have a new Java API that does this >> - though not using LibreOffice.

Re: [Libreoffice] Rationale for replacing Java with anything but c++ (was Re: web based libre office)

2011-01-28 Thread Thorsten Guenther
Hi Ben, Am 28.01.2011 15:55, schrieb BRM: > > Why go through the effort of (i) scripting LO and (ii) enabling your > application > to do that, when you could simply > just make a UI to (a) show the existing document to the user in a view mode > (read-only), (b) get the specific data you need in

Re: [Libreoffice] Rationale for replacing Java with anything but c++ (was Re: web based libre office)

2011-01-28 Thread BRM
- Original Message > From: Thorsten Guenther > Hi Michael, > Am 28.01.2011 14:58, schrieb Michael Meeks: > > Almost certainly you want to get involved with the existing odf toolkit > > project: http://odftoolkit.org/ they have a new Java API that does this > > - though not using

Re: [Libreoffice] Rationale for replacing Java with anything but c++ (was Re: web based libre office)

2011-01-28 Thread Thorsten Guenther
Hi Kohei, Am 28.01.2011 15:06, schrieb Kohei Yoshida: > > Someone else has tried something very similar there many years ago. > > http://sao.sourceforge.net/ > > The project may have been abandoned by now (sure looks like it), but > perhaps you can pick up his basic ideas or (license permitting) h

Re: [Libreoffice] Rationale for replacing Java with anything but c++ (was Re: web based libre office)

2011-01-28 Thread Thorsten Guenther
Hi Michael, Am 28.01.2011 14:58, schrieb Michael Meeks: > > Almost certainly you want to get involved with the existing odf toolkit > project: http://odftoolkit.org/ they have a new Java API that does this > - though not using LibreOffice. > No, they created a stand alone lib. Great for runn

Re: [Libreoffice] Rationale for replacing Java with anything but c++ (was Re: web based libre office)

2011-01-28 Thread Kohei Yoshida
On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 14:46 +0100, Thorsten Guenther wrote: > I would like to provide a Java-API for remote controlling LO. That is > what can be done today with the UNO API. So the new API should be > implemented as wrapper, hiding as much UNO'isms as possible, > presumably > for the cost of reduc

Re: [Libreoffice] Rationale for replacing Java with anything but c++ (was Re: web based libre office)

2011-01-28 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Thorsten, On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 14:46 +0100, Thorsten Guenther wrote: > Well, sadly I dont know a thing about the technical issues embedding a > jvm in an c application. Perhaps some of the user experience (apart from > download size) could be solved by shipping a "private" JVM with LO, but >

Re: [Libreoffice] Rationale for replacing Java with anything but c++ (was Re: web based libre office)

2011-01-28 Thread Thorsten Guenther
Am 28.01.2011 11:17, schrieb Michael Meeks: > >> could you please give me an idea why it would be useful to replace a >> language alien to the core with another alien ? > Well python is not alien, since we ship a tiny (~1.7Mb) python run-time > with every copy of LibreOffice we ship; ie. it i

Re: [Libreoffice] Rationale for replacing Java with anything but c++ (was Re: web based libre office)

2011-01-28 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Thorsten, On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 10:48 +0100, Thorsten Guenther wrote: > Am 27.01.2011 11:48, schrieb Michael Meeks: > >> I wouldn't mind spear heading an effort to do a python port > >> of LO in regards to going web based. Cant you integrate the > >> C++ code we have with python? > > If you

[Libreoffice] Rationale for replacing Java with anything but c++ (was Re: web based libre office)

2011-01-28 Thread Thorsten Guenther
Am 27.01.2011 11:48, schrieb Michael Meeks: > >> I wouldn't mind spear heading an effort to do a python port >> of LO in regards to going web based. Cant you integrate the >> C++ code we have with python? > If you want to do a python port of some things; I guess working on some > Java -> Pyth