Re: [Libreoffice] Upgrade packages for windows

2011-02-06 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Arno Teigseth arnot...@gmail.com schrieb: For the independent end user it's probably easier just telling him to install the new package, than installing a packet management system to his computer. The unqualified user will get some installer program, which automatically sets up the package

Re: [Libreoffice] Upgrade packages for windows

2011-01-31 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Arno Teigseth arnot...@gmail.com schrieb: - no one wants to make such a system just for libreoffice - it's more work figuring out the problems that probably will arise from an upgrade package than actually just installing the newer version of openoffice. These would probably be good

Re: [Libreoffice] Upgrade packages for windows

2011-01-31 Thread Arno Teigseth
On Mon, 2011-01-31 at 09:18 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote: Or to some other project, dedicated to generic Windows packaging. (cygwin folks already have done a lot in this area, so that'd be a good starting point). Aha I didn't know that existed. As long as the user experience isn't deteriorated

[Libreoffice] Upgrade packages for windows

2011-01-30 Thread Arno Teigseth
Hi This might be the correct list to post this: A microsoft fanboy/employee complains on a norwegian discussion site that you have to download the whole openoffice to upgrade or to fix problems (guess this applies to libreoffice too) That is, he's complaining that to go from 3.2 to 3.2.1 he

Re: [Libreoffice] Upgrade packages for windows

2011-01-30 Thread Nguyen Vu Hung
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Arno Teigseth arnot...@gmail.com wrote: A microsoft fanboy/employee complains on a norwegian discussion site that you have to download the whole openoffice to upgrade or to fix problems +1 I agree that the idea making small patch / bug fix / enhancement and a

Re: [Libreoffice] Upgrade packages for windows

2011-01-30 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Now, is it possible/interesting to have such a feature, that people can download fixes (Microsoft would call them hotfixes) to Libreoffice? hotfixes are a completely different technology, not suitable for upgrades of large complex software libe OOo or LibreOffice at all. What exists, and

Re: [Libreoffice] Upgrade packages for windows

2011-01-30 Thread Arno Teigseth
On Sun, 2011-01-30 at 09:25 -0700, Tor Lillqvist wrote: Now, is it possible/interesting to have such a feature, that people can download fixes (Microsoft would call them hotfixes) to Libreoffice? hotfixes are a completely different technology, not suitable for upgrades of large complex

Re: [Libreoffice] Upgrade packages for windows

2011-01-30 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Arno Teigseth arnot...@gmail.com schrieb: I guess it would be different if the whole windows system was set up with packages, with version controls and this-package-depends-on stuff. And real super-user privileges that normal lusers could not take on... I really wonder why Windows still

Re: [Libreoffice] Upgrade packages for windows

2011-01-30 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Arno Teigseth arnot...@gmail.com schrieb: Someone pointed out that on linux, the distribution is (can be) package-based, so that he would avoid that. ACK. But that still requires some refactoring of the whole build process. See the thread on removing 3rdparty packages as a first start. For

Re: [Libreoffice] Upgrade packages for windows

2011-01-30 Thread Tor Lillqvist
For old legacy platforms like Windows, prefix distros frameworks like cygwin could be used. Hopefully you are not serious, just uninformed. --tml ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org

Re: [Libreoffice] Upgrade packages for windows

2011-01-30 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Tor Lillqvist tlillqv...@novell.com schrieb: For old legacy platforms like Windows, prefix distros frameworks like cygwin could be used. Hopefully you are not serious, just uninformed. Actually, I'm think I'm quite well informed, and I'm really *serious* about this. cu --

Re: [Libreoffice] Upgrade packages for windows

2011-01-30 Thread Jesús Corrius
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 1:24 AM, Enrico Weigelt weig...@metux.de wrote: * Tor Lillqvist tlillqv...@novell.com schrieb: For old legacy platforms like Windows, prefix distros frameworks like cygwin could be used. Hopefully you are not serious, just uninformed. Actually, I'm think I'm quite

Re: [Libreoffice] Upgrade packages for windows

2011-01-30 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Jesús Corrius je...@softcatala.org schrieb: Actually, I'm think I'm quite well informed, and I'm really *serious* about this. Windows is not an old legacy platform. It is. Look at their concepts which are outdated for decades. cu --

Re: [Libreoffice] Upgrade packages for windows

2011-01-30 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Enrico Weigelt weig...@metux.de schrieb: * Jesús Corrius je...@softcatala.org schrieb: Actually, I'm think I'm quite well informed, and I'm really *serious* about this. Windows is not an old legacy platform. It is. Look at their concepts which are outdated for decades. And look

Re: [Libreoffice] Upgrade packages for windows

2011-01-30 Thread Jesús Corrius
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 1:37 AM, Enrico Weigelt weig...@metux.de wrote: * Enrico Weigelt weig...@metux.de schrieb: * Jesús Corrius je...@softcatala.org schrieb: Actually, I'm think I'm quite well informed, and I'm really *serious* about this. Windows is not an old legacy platform.

Re: [Libreoffice] Upgrade packages for windows

2011-01-30 Thread Arno Teigseth
On Sun, 2011-01-30 at 22:36 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote: To me it looks a bit ugly, but it could be just a question of replacing the binaries/files that differ from last version. I don't know enough about this to say if it's a Good Idea or a Bad Idea (tm) Inherently unreliable. The only