El 03/10/13 14:45, Jan Holesovsky escribió:
Jacobo Aragunde Pérez píše v Čt 03. 10. 2013 v 10:24 +0200:
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2. Immutable shapes can be saved to docx with no data loss, but they are
transformed to a shape group when saved to odt and this process
introduces some errors.
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Regarding 2.,
El 03/10/13 14:45, Jan Holesovsky escribió:
Jacobo Aragunde Pérez píše v Čt 03. 10. 2013 v 10:24 +0200:
...
2. Immutable shapes can be saved to docx with no data loss, but they are
transformed to a shape group when saved to odt and this process
introduces some errors.
...
Regarding 2.,
El 02/10/13 16:45, Jan Holesovsky escribió:
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Just so that this does not lead to confusion - SmartArt being a real
group shape is a relatively recent fix:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=59373b753902f69cd44d183568b084429322e7ab
In the previous versions it has been
Hi Jacobo,
Jacobo Aragunde Pérez píše v Čt 03. 10. 2013 v 10:24 +0200:
Extracting some conclusions from the feedback in this thread, probably
the most reasonable path having mid-term in mind would be:
1. SmartArt should be imported in an immutable way by default,
preserving the original
El 02/10/13 16:45, Jan Holesovsky escribió:
...
Just so that this does not lead to confusion - SmartArt being a real
group shape is a relatively recent fix:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=59373b753902f69cd44d183568b084429322e7ab
In the previous versions it has been
Hi Jacobo,
good to see this being improved. I don't think an option in the Options
dialog is the best way to go. Users might not expect it there and think
it's a bug that you can't edit SmartArt (because you could before)
I have another suggestion:
You could disable editing SmartArt by
Hi guys,
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 8:09 AM, Samuel Mehrbrodt s.mehrbr...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Jacobo,
good to see this being improved. I don't think an option in the Options
dialog is the best way to go. Users might not expect it there and think
it's a bug that you can't edit SmartArt (because
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 01:59:14AM +0300, Andres Gomez ago...@igalia.com
wrote:
Actually, I've been reading in LibO's Help which is the purpose of the
options under Options - Load/Save - MS Office and they seem to be
really attached to OLE importing/exporting.
Seeing that SmartArt also has
El 02/10/13 09:58, Miklos Vajna escribió:
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 01:59:14AM +0300, Andres Gomez ago...@igalia.com
wrote:
Actually, I've been reading in LibO's Help which is the purpose of the
options under Options - Load/Save - MS Office and they seem to be
really attached to OLE
El 02/10/13 08:09, Samuel Mehrbrodt escribió:
Hi Jacobo,
good to see this being improved. I don't think an option in the Options
dialog is the best way to go. Users might not expect it there and think
it's a bug that you can't edit SmartArt (because you could before)
I have another
That might be ok for now, but then the default behavior should be as it
is now (SmartArt editable).
If we have the not-editable Smart-Art as default, we need an easy way to
make it editable.
Mirek, what do you think?
Am 02.10.2013 11:35, schrieb Jacobo Aragunde Pérez:
Everything is possible,
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Samuel Mehrbrodt s.mehrbr...@gmail.comwrote:
That might be ok for now, but then the default behavior should be as it is
now (SmartArt editable).
If we have the not-editable Smart-Art as default, we need an easy way to
make it editable.
I'd much rather for
Hi Jacobo,
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 11:30:31AM +0200, Jacobo Aragunde Pérez
jaragu...@igalia.com wrote:
In my opinion, the default behaviour should be SmartArt becoming
immutable on import.
That would be a regression, I'm afraid, since by default ATM you can do
that.
With the current one, a
Hi Jacobo, Miklos,
Miklos Vajna píše v St 02. 10. 2013 v 14:44 +0200:
With the current one, a user can change the shapes
but those changes won't be exported back to docx and that's confusing.
Indeed. Read the original rationale here:
Hi Miklos,
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Miklos Vajna vmik...@collabora.co.ukwrote:
Hi Jacobo,
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 11:30:31AM +0200, Jacobo Aragunde Pérez
jaragu...@igalia.com wrote:
In my opinion, the default behaviour should be SmartArt becoming
immutable on import.
That would
Hi Kendy,
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Jan Holesovsky ke...@collabora.com wrote:
Hi Jacobo, Miklos,
Miklos Vajna píše v St 02. 10. 2013 v 14:44 +0200:
With the current one, a user can change the shapes
but those changes won't be exported back to docx and that's confusing.
Hi Mirek,
Mirek M. píše v St 02. 10. 2013 v 17:01 +0200:
The problem is that there's no indication that you lose data with
Ungroup. (In general, the only data I would expect to lose by using
Ungroup is group-related metadata.)
There would be indication, but only ex-post; I hope that is
Hi Jacobo,
good to see this being improved. I don't think an option in the Options
dialog is the best way to go. Users might not expect it there and think
it's a bug that you can't edit SmartArt (because you could before)
I have another suggestion:
You could disable editing SmartArt by
El 02/10/13 09:58, Miklos Vajna escribió:
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 01:59:14AM +0300, Andres Gomez ago...@igalia.com
wrote:
Actually, I've been reading in LibO's Help which is the purpose of the
options under Options - Load/Save - MS Office and they seem to be
really attached to OLE
El 02/10/13 08:09, Samuel Mehrbrodt escribió:
Hi Jacobo,
good to see this being improved. I don't think an option in the Options
dialog is the best way to go. Users might not expect it there and think
it's a bug that you can't edit SmartArt (because you could before)
I have another
That might be ok for now, but then the default behavior should be as it
is now (SmartArt editable).
If we have the not-editable Smart-Art as default, we need an easy way to
make it editable.
Mirek, what do you think?
Am 02.10.2013 11:35, schrieb Jacobo Aragunde Pérez:
Everything is possible,
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Samuel Mehrbrodt s.mehrbr...@gmail.comwrote:
That might be ok for now, but then the default behavior should be as it is
now (SmartArt editable).
If we have the not-editable Smart-Art as default, we need an easy way to
make it editable.
I'd much rather for
Hi Jacobo, Miklos,
Miklos Vajna píše v St 02. 10. 2013 v 14:44 +0200:
With the current one, a user can change the shapes
but those changes won't be exported back to docx and that's confusing.
Indeed. Read the original rationale here:
Hi Miklos,
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Miklos Vajna vmik...@collabora.co.ukwrote:
Hi Jacobo,
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 11:30:31AM +0200, Jacobo Aragunde Pérez
jaragu...@igalia.com wrote:
In my opinion, the default behaviour should be SmartArt becoming
immutable on import.
That would
Hi Mirek,
Mirek M. píše v St 02. 10. 2013 v 17:01 +0200:
The problem is that there's no indication that you lose data with
Ungroup. (In general, the only data I would expect to lose by using
Ungroup is group-related metadata.)
There would be indication, but only ex-post; I hope that is
Hi,
On Tue, 2013-10-01 at 17:49 +0200, Jacobo Aragunde Pérez wrote:
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That takes us to the next step: we want to make imported SmartArt
immutable, so users are aware that they can change the document but not
the shapes. We would like to add a configuration setting to enable or
disable this
Hi :)
Lately we have been working on SmartArt support on Writer. As you know,
in 4.1 and prior the SmartArt figures were imported to LO shapes but
they weren't exported back when saving to docx, causing data loss.
Our first approach, which is already pushed to master, was saving the
full
Hi,
On Tue, 2013-10-01 at 17:49 +0200, Jacobo Aragunde Pérez wrote:
...
That takes us to the next step: we want to make imported SmartArt
immutable, so users are aware that they can change the document but
not
the shapes. We would like to add a configuration setting to enable or
disable this
Hi,
On Tue, 2013-10-01 at 17:49 +0200, Jacobo Aragunde Pérez wrote:
...
That takes us to the next step: we want to make imported SmartArt
immutable, so users are aware that they can change the document but not
the shapes. We would like to add a configuration setting to enable or
disable this
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