Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call: 2014-10-16

2014-10-24 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:01:51AM -0400, Terrence Enger wrote: > I have created a debian-sid chroot environment to avoid complaints > about old libraries from the bibisect versions. For example in > debian-wheezy (i.e., stable), 43all version latest complains: The alpha1 bibisect update is alrea

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call: 2014-10-16

2014-10-17 Thread Stephan Bergmann
On 10/17/2014 11:13 AM, Jan Holesovsky wrote: * LibreOffice 4.4 bibisects repo creation (Bjoern) + Bjoern creating, but Robinson should take over + but has time for that? - bugzilla migration a priority... (Bjoern) + Bjoern can do that at the time of the tag, but then is tr

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call: 2014-10-16

2014-10-17 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:47:30AM +0200, Stephan Bergmann wrote: > Would not the best thing to do be to do bibisect builds on the > release baseline, as is done for the TDF builds? That way, the > builds should work on as many machines as possible. As discussed explicitly in the call: I hav

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call: 2014-10-16

2014-10-17 Thread Stephan Bergmann
On 10/17/2014 12:12 PM, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: Then again, as per: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/HowToBibisect#Manual_setup_.28download_a_tarball.29 there are currently _no_ reports of recent build being not universal. Fine then. (I've no experience consuming those bibisect rep

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call: 2014-10-16

2014-10-17 Thread Terrence Enger
On Fri, 2014-10-17 at 12:12 +0200, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: Hi, > > Then again, as per: > > > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/HowToBibisect#Manual_setup_.28download_a_tarball.29 > > there are currently _no_ reports of recent build being not universal. I have created a debian-sid chroot

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call: 2014-10-16

2014-10-17 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:13:12AM +0200, Jan Holesovsky wrote: > * Open-source related projects for a local university (Jacobo) > + ~200-300 hours projects sought > + ideas appreciated! > + please send to the ML too :-) (Norbert) Two ideas from the build system world: - 1/ Repla

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call: 2014-10-16

2014-10-17 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:13:12AM +0200, Jan Holesovsky wrote: > + need a bugzilla query for the bugs that have been bisected to a single > commit (Miklos) > AI + can do that (Bjoern) > + we have a keyword "bisected", can use that for those with exact > commit >+ don

RE: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call: 2014-10-16

2014-10-17 Thread nicholas ferguson
t: Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call: 2014-10-16 On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:13:12AM +0200, Jan Holesovsky wrote: > * Open-source related projects for a local university (Jacobo) > + ~200-300 hours projects sought > + ideas appreciated! > + please send to the ML too :-) (No

RE: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call: 2014-10-16

2014-10-17 Thread nicholas ferguson
-boun...@lists.freedesktop.org] On Behalf Of Bjoern Michaelsen Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 3:13 PM To: Robinson Tryon Cc: Libreoffice-qa; libreoffice-dev Subject: Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call: 2014-10-16 On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:13:12AM +0200, Jan Holesovsky wrote: > + need a

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call: 2014-10-16

2014-10-18 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:13:12AM +0200, Jan Holesovsky wrote: > * LibreOffice 4.4 bibisects repo creation (Bjoern) > + Bjoern creating, but Robinson should take over > + but has time for that? - bugzilla migration a priority... (Bjoern) > + Bjoern can do that at the time of th

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call: 2014-10-16

2014-10-19 Thread Wols Lists
On 18/10/14 03:23, nicholas ferguson wrote: > I will also add...that LibreOffice's approach to a complicated build... has > legs and could be marketed as a buid system for complicated apps, that are > cross platform. Especially if it removes cygwin from its equation. How close is this to lilypo

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call: 2014-10-16

2014-10-20 Thread Stephan Bergmann
On 10/17/2014 08:29 PM, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: - 1/ Replace all custom shell tooling (sed/grep/gawk/perl horrors) and consolidate on either native (C/C++) code (see e.g. concat-deps) or _one_ and only one consolidated solution beyond that, likely Python3 (as we are bundli

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call: 2014-10-16

2014-10-20 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 10:42:54AM +0200, Stephan Bergmann wrote: > ...if we also successfully abstract over the differences between > GNU/cygwin and Windows of all those "very little tools" called from > make recipes (like moving a file). Well, I dont think we want to get rid of that on Linux/OSX

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call: 2014-10-16

2014-10-20 Thread Tor Lillqvist
> Well, I dont think we want to get rid of that on Linux/OSX where GNU > coreutils > is a pretty natural thing to be available there. s/GNU coreutils/POSIX utilities After all, who knows what useful extensions (irony) GNU might see fit to provide in the future, which would then be available on

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call: 2014-10-16

2014-10-20 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 06:54:48PM +0300, Tor Lillqvist wrote: > s/GNU coreutils/POSIX utilities > > After all, who knows what useful extensions (irony) GNU might see fit to > provide in the future, which would then be available on (GNU/)Linux only, > as it isn't unlikeli that Apple wants to stay

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call: 2014-10-16

2014-10-20 Thread Wols Lists
On 20/10/14 17:04, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > I was just hesitant to write POSIX as Im pretty sure we are using > functionality > beyond that (and that works because a lot of things work on BSD/OSX too that > arent strictly POSIX). Restricting ourselves to POSIX purity just for the > standards sak

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call: 2014-10-16

2014-10-20 Thread Tor Lillqvist
> Restricting ourselves to POSIX purity just for the > standards sake, rather than that "it should work on all platforms" seem > like a > mostly futile endevour to me. > Sure; but let's say so then, "it should work on all platforms", so that we can reject use of GNU coreutils features that are not

RE: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call: 2014-10-16

2014-10-20 Thread nicholas ferguson
-boun...@lists.freedesktop.org] On Behalf Of nicholas ferguson Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 9:39 PM To: 'Bjoern Michaelsen'; 'Jan Holesovsky' Cc: 'Libreoffice-qa'; 'libreoffice-dev' Subject: RE: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call: 2014-10-16 (1) A LibreOffice