Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Regressions in Open Source projects ...

2012-03-16 Thread Michael Meeks
On Thu, 2012-03-15 at 21:22 +0100, Petr Mladek wrote: > > Actually I was talking about SUSE LibreOffice for Windows (which is > > apparently a one-off unsupported release created for the Intel AppUp > > store) :) Nah - SUSE will be maintaining that with our stable release. Though of cours

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Regressions in Open Source projects ...

2012-03-15 Thread Petr Mladek
Pedro Lino píše v Čt 15. 03. 2012 v 17:40 +: > Hi Petr, all > > > Please, do not take this that we do not take care about > openSUSE/SUSE > users. We do a lot of things for them. It is only about my > packaging > work and about that I underestim

Re: Regressions in Open Source projects ...

2012-03-15 Thread Ivan Timofeev
On 15.03.2012 20:23, Michael Meeks wrote: On Thu, 2012-03-15 at 17:04 +0400, Ivan Timofeev wrote: Perhaps, if you mean the whole team. But note that there are some lunatic guys like me, who are interested in bug-fixing ~completely. ;) Yep - you're a star ! :-) *timid smile* not a bi

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Regressions in Open Source projects ...

2012-03-15 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 05:04:44PM +0400, Ivan Timofeev wrote: > Perhaps, if you mean the whole team. But note that there are some > lunatic guys like me, who are interested in bug-fixing ~completely. > ;) Take a good look at the last slide of: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Special:FilePath

Re: Regressions in Open Source projects ...

2012-03-15 Thread Pedro Lino
Hi Petr, all Please, do not take this that we do not take care about openSUSE/SUSE > users. We do a lot of things for them. It is only about my packaging > work and about that I underestimated the demand for 3.5. > Actually I was talking about SUSE LibreOffice for Windows (which is apparently a

Re: Regressions in Open Source projects ...

2012-03-15 Thread Petr Mladek
Pedro Lino píše v Čt 15. 03. 2012 v 12:31 +: > But SUSE released version 3.4.2 while TDF is already at 3.5.1. Doesn't > that show a little about the importance of stability? ;) We have had 3.4.4 in the LibreOffice:Stable project for a long time. I have just pushed there 3.4.5 which actually ha

Re: Regressions in Open Source projects ...

2012-03-15 Thread Michael Meeks
On Thu, 2012-03-15 at 17:04 +0400, Ivan Timofeev wrote: > Perhaps, if you mean the whole team. But note that there are some > lunatic guys like me, who are interested in bug-fixing ~completely. ;) Yep - you're a star ! :-) Thanks Ivan ! Michael. -- michael.me.

Re: Regressions in Open Source projects ...

2012-03-15 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Pedro Lino wrote: > > I'm not sure I understand the straw-man concept Since that is a common rhetorical tools: "A straw man is a component of an argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position. To "attack a straw man" is to

Re: Regressions in Open Source projects ...

2012-03-15 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 02:55:30PM +0200, Noel Grandin wrote: > The problem is that open-source developers cannot be motivated to > work 80% on bugs and 20% on features. I dont think that is correct in absolute. I bet there are people out there too, who like to work on bugfixing. Actually I am pre

Re: Regressions in Open Source projects ...

2012-03-15 Thread Ivan Timofeev
On 15.03.2012 16:55, Noel Grandin wrote: The problem is that open-source developers cannot be motivated to work 80% on bugs and 20% on features. Perhaps, if you mean the whole team. But note that there are some lunatic guys like me, who are interested in bug-fixing ~completely. ;) Ivan _

Re: Regressions in Open Source projects ...

2012-03-15 Thread Noel Grandin
On 2012-03-15 14:31, Pedro Lino wrote: As a general conclusion I think we are all doing the best given the limited human resources and the scarcity of our most valuable resource: time! It is because we do CARE about this project that we complain about the short testing times AND the regress

Re: Regressions in Open Source projects ...

2012-03-15 Thread Pedro Lino
Hi Michael, all I'm looking at another few Windows specific bugs that > are of interest. Particularly with the new drmemory tool and Jesus' > windows / debug builds - we should be able to progress here quickly. > It'd be wonderful if we could get these traces for Windows specific > bugs. > I'm qu