Re: MacOS support; agenda item ESC

2020-05-09 Thread Eivind Samseth
> On 9 May 2020, at 22:02, Ilmari Lauhakangas > wrote: > Minimum runtime support is evaluated periodically based on OS version market > share vs. our maintenance burden & potential wins regarding new language and > platform features. > > Since LibO 6.3 release we can see 10.10 market share ha

Re: MacOS support; agenda item ESC

2020-05-09 Thread Ilmari Lauhakangas
Eivind Samseth kirjoitti 9.5.2020 klo 22.25: On 4 May 2020, at 15:17, Michael Meeks > wrote: Thank you; very helpful - I expect Tor may have some time to look at some of these. Great! Aside, while looking at bug this bug it occurred to me, why does LO su

Re: MacOS support; agenda item ESC

2020-05-09 Thread Eivind Samseth
> On 4 May 2020, at 15:17, Michael Meeks wrote: > > Thank you; very helpful - I expect Tor may have some time to look at > some of these. Great! Aside, while looking at bug this bug it occurred to me, why does LO support macOS 10.10? https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101956

Re: MacOS support; agenda item ESC

2020-05-04 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Eivind, On 03/05/2020 12:47, Eivind Samseth wrote: > here’s some input from me after having tested quite a few > macOS bugs through the years: ... > I read through the list of open macOS bugs (there’s only > 220!) and here are some notable major ones and CJK issues Thank you; very help

Re: MacOS support; agenda item ESC

2020-05-03 Thread Eivind Samseth
Hello, here’s some input from me after having tested quite a few macOS bugs through the years: The download page needs to show some of the different known issues. E.g., today it should show a warning on Catalina that you may need to grant LO "Full Disk Access” if running on a standard account o

macOS support; agenda item ESC

2020-04-28 Thread Thorsten Wagner
Very interesting - does this means that there is no OpenGL support for macOS at present too? Or is OpenGL/Metal supported by using respective macOS library calls? If the latter is the case, OpenGL (and Skia) option within preference dialogs should be removed for macOS. On the oder hand dealing w

macOS support; agenda item ESC

2020-04-27 Thread Thorsten Wagner
Verified with LO 6.4.3 downloaded form libreoffice.org which should be built with SDK 10.15 and hack. Concerning dark mode behaviour is the same as built with SDK 10.13. Color changes by the OS do not take place. Prior to switching to SDK 10.13 or using hack there were some color changes require

Re: macOS support; agenda item ESC

2020-04-27 Thread Thorsten Wagner
When building LO without hack and SDK 10.15 UI coloring changes after switching to dark mode (e.g. toolbar and sidebar shading, highlight color). As there is no specific implementation of LO's native colors for dark mode currently, this looks very incomplete. Color changes done by macOS disappe

Re: macOS support; agenda item ESC

2020-04-27 Thread Stephan Bergmann
On 27/04/2020 11:50, Thorsten Wagner wrote: Exactly - system behaves as is was built with SDK 10.13. Blurry text is avoided, but other features, e.g. dark mode, are not accessible too. For now this is well as dark mode implementation has not been done currently. To move forward issue needs to

macOS support; agenda item ESC

2020-04-27 Thread Thorsten Wagner
Exactly - system behaves as is was built with SDK 10.13. Blurry text is avoided, but other features, e.g. dark mode, are not accessible too. For now this is well as dark mode implementation has not been done currently. To move forward issue needs to be resolved without hack. On 27. Apr 2020, at

Re: macOS support; agenda item ESC

2020-04-27 Thread Luboš Luňák
On Saturday 25 of April 2020, Thorsten Wagner wrote: > (2) I am not sure whether SKIA is really working on macOS. Although I have > not investigated this in detail, my understanding is that SKIA is currently > only implemented for Linux and Windows. If this is correct SKIA preference > option is mi

Re: macOS support; agenda item ESC

2020-04-27 Thread Stephan Bergmann
On 25/04/2020 12:12, Thorsten Wagner wrote: (1) It is still not possible to use macOS SDK 10.15 due to blurry text on retina displays. Current workaround is using SDK 10.13. SDK 10.15 is a prerequisite to support current features like dark mode, which is not implemented today. Can you clarif

Re: macOS support; agenda item ESC

2020-04-25 Thread Noel Grandin
On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 at 12:13, Thorsten Wagner wrote: > Overall code changes concernig UI seem not to be tested on macOS regulary > causing regressions. An example is tdf#131549 which seems to be such a > severe regression and causes LO 7 not to be usable on macOS currently. > > I'll have a fix fo

Re: MacOS support; agenda item ESC

2020-04-25 Thread julien2412
Italo Vignoli-7 wrote > ... > Of course, we could add a link to the workaround to the download page to > make it more prominent and reduce the number of emails for support, even > if they do not represent a heacy burden (I am the person who answers the > majority of those emails). Since we may exp

Re: MacOS support; agenda item ESC

2020-04-25 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 4/25/20 11:11 AM, julien2412 wrote: > Since we don't know if it'll be voted and if it's voted how much times we > will have to wait for a fix, shouldn't we stop temporarily to release LO for > MacOs or at least indicate not compatible with Catalina 10.15 ? As a Mac user, I would strongly oppos

macOS support; agenda item ESC

2020-04-25 Thread Thorsten Wagner
egression and causes LO 7 not to be usable on macOS currently. Thorsten Begin forwarded message: From: Michael Meeks Subject: Re: MacOS support; agenda item ESC Date: 24. April 2020 at 11:02:49 CEST To: Telesto Cc: libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org Hi there, On 23/04/2020 20:41, Telesto wrot

Re: MacOS support; agenda item ESC

2020-04-25 Thread julien2412
Hello, Here are some points: 1) Notarization. Reading https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2020#Fix_macOS_10.15_notarization , it seems we're stuck. Reading from last ESC (eg: http://document-foundation-mail-archive.969070.n3.nabble.com/ESC-meeting-agenda-2020-04-02-16-00-Berlin-t

Re: MacOS support; agenda item ESC

2020-04-24 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi there, On 23/04/2020 20:41, Telesto wrote: > The LibreOffice MacOS support is pretty dramatic. Sooo ... Collabora has been focused elsewhere for a while, but some app-store budget to invest in Mac fixing has accumulated. I'd like to address some of these issues and get it updated on th

MacOS support; agenda item ESC

2020-04-23 Thread Telesto
Hi All, A ESC agenda item proposal The LibreOffice MacOS support is pretty dramatic.  No surprise without  a Mac developer around; or maybe one? No developers/ or no developers with macs.  The Mac code is legacy as far I know. There are enough depreciation warning within the code. It still su