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--- Comment #42 from Telesto ---
FWIW: I'm not a PS Style expert.. I'm not even sure if the below could be
implemented at all (compatibility reasons). Only thinking out loud..
A) I surely grasp inconvenience mentioned in comment 30
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--- Comment #41 from Gustavo ---
After ten years, thought this discussion became pointless. They obviously won't
fix it ever because of other reasons rather than technical difficulties or some
plausible justification.
This productivity
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--- Comment #40 from Rūdolfs ---
(In reply to David Melik from comment #38)
> not everyone is necessarily even writing a paragraph rather
> than writing as a text editor just with nice formatting
Right now Text Body style is the same as
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--- Comment #39 from Clarc ---
Speaking of my own experience, when trying to teach people how to properly
format their documents, the biggest issue we face is this "Default Paragraph
Style".
Due to improper defaults, most of their past
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--- Comment #38 from David Melik ---
I don't believe you nor agree, because not everyone is necessarily even writing
a paragraph rather than writing as a text editor just with nice formatting,
which might be anything, like unorganized
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--- Comment #37 from Gustavo ---
(In reply to rscra...@gmail.com from comment #36)
> LO version 7.2.1.2
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> Note: this comment uses “DPS” to mean “Default Paragraph Style”.
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> In the default template (and the “Modern” template, which I
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--- Comment #36 from rscra...@gmail.com ---
LO version 7.2.1.2
Note: this comment uses “DPS” to mean “Default Paragraph Style”.
In the default template (and the “Modern” template, which I think came bundled
with LO on install), none of
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--- Comment #34 from Gustavo ---
This thread have some duplicates and it has been here since 2012... not sure
why it has never been corrected yet. There is a claim that is not really an app
problem, is not in the code, but it's part of
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--- Comment #31 from Clarc ---
(In reply to Olivier Hallot from comment #29)
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Writer_for_Students/Text_Body
On the bottom of the page, there even is this note: "Note: Never use the
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--- Comment #30 from Clarc ---
Somehow, this wasn't implemented yet...
Here's my input as a (somewhat) new user:
1. Having 'Default Paragraph Style' as the beginning-default seems
counterintuitive. Very rarely do most inexperienced users
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--- Comment #29 from Olivier Hallot ---
Another interesting page on the subject:
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Writer_for_Students/Text_Body
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--- Comment #28 from V Stuart Foote ---
Yes UX input is that our standard ODF, aka "normal", document templates be
changed to use Text Body style to Paragraph where now Default style is
assigned. Some change to
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--- Comment #26 from Thomas Lendo ---
As nobody has added new insights in the last months, can we do it or not?
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--- Comment #25 from Cor Nouws ---
IMO a good suggestion.
A change won't affect interoperability.
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--- Comment #23 from Yousuf Philips (jay) ---
(In reply to Rūdolfs from comment #22)
> The issue is NOT that the style named “Default” looks wrong. Problems arise
> from the fact that all other paragraph styles
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--- Comment #22 from Rūdolfs ---
Let me clarify what I meant when opening the bug.
The issue is NOT that the style named “Default” looks wrong. Problems arise
from the fact that all other paragraph styles
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--- Comment #21 from Heiko Tietze ---
(In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) from comment #20)
> > https://plus.google.com/u/0/107566594492891737454/posts/LC6AnLuQL9z
Striking argument. Who runs these stupid polls? ;-)
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--- Comment #19 from Heiko Tietze ---
Why should we care what other programs do when creating new files?
I hope that "working with .docx files will have a different behaviour than .odt
files." because that's
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--- Comment #17 from Yousuf Philips (jay) ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #16)
> DOn't get the interoperability point as this format would be what we use for
> newly created documents.
As mentioned in
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--- Comment #16 from Heiko Tietze ---
(In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) from comment #15)
> Default paragraph style shouldn't be Text Body, as it will causing more
> problems than benefits, especially with
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--- Comment #14 from Heiko Tietze ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #13)
> The 100% font metric size is the core measurement...
Don't get your point as no one challenges the spacing in this ticket. It's
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--- Comment #13 from V Stuart Foote ---
The 100% font metric size is the core measurement for any textual content, not
the value (115%) now assigned to Text Body.
Anywhere that uses Default paragraph (aka
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Bug 47295 depends on bug 94464, which changed state.
Bug 94464 Summary: Text Body default line spacing too big (proportional 120%
instead of Single )
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--- Comment #11 from Yousuf Philips (jay) ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from bug 94464 comment 35)
> Changing the Default style to be 115% of selected font's line height would
> be inherited by _all_
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(In reply to Thomas Lendo from comment #5)
> Do
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