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--- Comment #31 from Commit Notification
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Caolan McNamara committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to libreoffice-4-2-2:
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--- Comment #20 from Marco Zehe marco.z...@googlemail.com ---
I can confirm that this build:
Version: 4.3.0.0.alpha0+
Build ID: d20ffc370bc1b946366d4cb1073b815beda706a2
TinderBox: Win-x86@39, Branch:master, Time: 2014-02-18_03:05:33
eliminates
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--- Comment #21 from Caolán McNamara caol...@redhat.com ---
re What does that role get mapped to in MSAA/IA2? (There's no panel role in
either, but there are several pane roles.) digging into
winaccessibility/source/service/AccObject.cxx I get
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--- Comment #22 from Michael Meeks michael.me...@collabora.com ---
Marco, James - thanks for the great support in NVDA ! that's great; if you're
happy with the IA2_ROLE_OPTION_PANE change would it be good to back-port that
to 4.2.next ?
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--- Comment #24 from Marco Zehe marco.z...@googlemail.com ---
(In reply to comment #21)
re What does that role get mapped to in MSAA/IA2? (There's no panel role in
either, but there are several pane roles.) digging into
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--- Comment #25 from Marco Zehe marco.z...@googlemail.com ---
(In reply to comment #22)
Marco, James - thanks for the great support in NVDA ! that's great; if
you're happy with the IA2_ROLE_OPTION_PANE change would it be good to
back-port that
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--- Comment #26 from V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu ---
(In reply to comment #24)
That's interesting, because in the 4.3-dev build, I now don't see any option
panes on that start screen any more. However, since bug 75151 might also
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--- Comment #27 from Marco Zehe marco.z...@googlemail.com ---
Thanks Stuart, your explanation from bug 75151 makes perfect sense, and NVDA
may just suppress all of them now. I just took a look with accProbe, and am
seeing them there, with no name
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--- Comment #29 from James Teh ja...@nvaccess.org ---
(In reply to comment #24)
That's interesting, because in the 4.3-dev build, I now don't see any option
panes on that start screen any more. However, since bug 75151 might also
play a part
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--- Comment #17 from Caolán McNamara caol...@redhat.com ---
hmm, so I assigned VclBox containers AccessibleRole::FILLER because that's
what gtk (IIRC) assigned GtkBox (which I did find a bit odd). While
VclGrids are assigned
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--- Comment #19 from James Teh ja...@nvaccess.org ---
(In reply to comment #5)
We probably should make NVDA ignore whitespace objects.
FWIW, I've already committed a change to NVDA to ignore whitespace accessibles
as layout objects. It's
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--- Comment #15 from Michael Meeks michael.me...@collabora.com ---
Mozilla has some great API documentation here:
http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/accessible/accessible-docs.html
Ominously their drawing of what gets a peer seems to show
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--- Comment #16 from Marco Zehe marco.z...@googlemail.com ---
(In reply to comment #15)
Mozilla has some great API documentation here:
http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/accessible/accessible-docs.html
Ominously their drawing of what
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--- Comment #13 from Michael Meeks michael.me...@collabora.com ---
It may well be worth looking at and/or screenshotting some Java apps under
Windows to see what 'pane' type peers they use to represent their layout
containers [ assuming that they
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--- Comment #14 from James Teh ja...@nvaccess.org ---
(In reply to comment #13)
It may well be worth looking at and/or screenshotting some Java apps under
Windows to see what 'pane' type peers they use to represent their layout
containers [
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--- Comment #10 from Caolán McNamara caol...@redhat.com ---
What happens when NDVA meets a true gtk application on windows ? e.g
something like gimp (or maybe better, assuming it works, gladewin32 itself
which presumably contains glade-previewer
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--- Comment #11 from V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu ---
Caolán
(In reply to comment #10)
What happens when NDVA meets a true gtk application on windows ? e.g
something like gimp (or maybe better, assuming it works, gladewin32 itself
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--- Comment #12 from James Teh ja...@nvaccess.org ---
(In reply to comment #11)
Anyone know if there is a version of GIMP for Windows built with support for
Assistive Technology tools?
As far as I know, GTK isn't accessible on Windows at all
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--- Comment #9 from Niklas Johansson sleeping.pil...@gmail.com ---
Glade does use the role FILLER to layout objects, not only to add space in
between objects. And so I believe that the role filler is correct. It seems
that Mozilla and W3C maps
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--- Comment #5 from James Teh ja...@nvaccess.org ---
We probably should make NVDA ignore whitespace objects. That said:
* Whitespace does seem like an inappropriate role here, as does filler.
Whitespace/filler suggest that they fill up space
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--- Comment #6 from James Teh ja...@nvaccess.org ---
NVDA ticket: http://community.nvda-project.org/ticket/3839
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--- Comment #7 from Marco Zehe marco.z...@googlemail.com ---
I agree with jamie that these layout-containers should not be exposed. In
Mozilla, we use the Whitespace role for br / elements. And only for those,
see
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--- Comment #8 from V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu ---
Issue seems to arise from the way the GTK+ Glade UI widgets get assigned their
accessible roles--I think with GAIL but I'm not sure of the plumbing to
associate to UAA and from there
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--- Comment #3 from Niklas Johansson sleeping.pil...@gmail.com ---
LibreOffice API specifies the Accessible role filler as:
Filler role.
An object that fills up space in a user interface. It is often used in
interfaces to tweak the spacing
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--- Comment #2 from Marco Zehe marco.z...@googlemail.com ---
(In reply to comment #1)
I believe this nuisance issue results from the implementation of nested
GtkBox or GtkGrid UI Widgets for layout of the StartCenter. Also noted in
the Sidebar
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