Re: [Libreoffice-qa] How Can I Provide More Info For Developers

2012-09-07 Thread John Smith
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Joel Madero wrote: > This isn't for end-users, it's for QA team..and it's our job to do as > much as possible to help the developers. I know when I'm doing the > development side I appreciate whatever previous info users and QA can > provide. It's maximizing the

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] How Can I Provide More Info For Developers

2012-09-07 Thread Joel Madero
This isn't for end-users, it's for QA team..and it's our job to do as much as possible to help the developers. I know when I'm doing the development side I appreciate whatever previous info users and QA can provide. It's maximizing the efficiency of our abilitieslimited # of developers mean

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] How Can I Provide More Info For Developers

2012-09-07 Thread John Smith
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Joel Madero wrote: > I'll bring this up at our next conference call and see if there is a > possible solution. > > > Best Regards, > Joel > > May I humbly note that I personally feel that developers should be able to produce their own backtraces, given a solid repro

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] How Can I Provide More Info For Developers

2012-09-07 Thread Joel Madero
I'll bring this up at our next conference call and see if there is a possible solution. Best Regards, Joel On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:48 PM, John Smith wrote: > On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Joel Madero wrote: > > > > > > Sounds good, but I agree with John that better instructions are needed

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] How Can I Provide More Info For Developers

2012-09-07 Thread John Smith
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Joel Madero wrote: > > > Sounds good, but I agree with John that better instructions are needed. I'm > working on a new triage page and hopefully in there we can get someone to > contribute incredibly precise, easy for noobs, instructions for every type > of backtra

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] How Can I Provide More Info For Developers

2012-09-07 Thread khagaroth
The best solution would be to have a debug symbol server, then there would be easily accessible debug symbols even for the release builds. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http:

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] How Can I Provide More Info For Developers

2012-09-07 Thread Joel Madero
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 10:44 AM, John Smith wrote: > On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Michael Meeks > wrote: > > Hi John, > > > > You can always make it easier for a developer to solve - and the > easier > > it is, the more likely it is to get solved quickly. Ways to do that are: > > > >

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] How Can I Provide More Info For Developers

2012-09-07 Thread John Smith
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Michael Meeks wrote: > Hi John, > > You can always make it easier for a developer to solve - and the > easier > it is, the more likely it is to get solved quickly. Ways to do that are: > > * getting a stack-trace with full debugging symbols > >

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] How Can I Provide More Info For Developers

2012-09-07 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi John, On Fri, 2012-09-07 at 19:10 +0200, John Smith wrote: > Maybe im just dumb, but: Once you have provided a reliable and > reproducible test case (in this case, download the odt file attached > to the report and save it as docx in libreoffice), is there still a > need to provide further info

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] How Can I Provide More Info For Developers

2012-09-07 Thread John Smith
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Joel Madero wrote: > Wrong Bug, dammit, my bad. Here is the proper one, attachment is there and > functioning, I had 5 open FDO tabs in FF and picked the wrong one. > > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48569 > > My apologies > > Joel > Maybe im just dumb

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] How Can I Provide More Info For Developers

2012-09-07 Thread Joel Madero
Wrong Bug, dammit, my bad. Here is the proper one, attachment is there and functioning, I had 5 open FDO tabs in FF and picked the wrong one. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48569 My apologies Joel On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:57 AM, John Smith wrote: > On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 6:38 PM

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] How Can I Provide More Info For Developers

2012-09-07 Thread John Smith
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Joel Madero wrote: > I don't see that helping much, as the developer who takes this one can > quickly do this themselves. A working doc only takes 2 seconds to make. > > Best Regards, > Joel > Another random thought then: Is there a way to reproduce the issue that d

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] How Can I Provide More Info For Developers

2012-09-07 Thread Joel Madero
I don't see that helping much, as the developer who takes this one can quickly do this themselves. A working doc only takes 2 seconds to make. Best Regards, Joel On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:35 AM, John Smith wrote: > On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Joel Madero wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > Came acro

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] How Can I Provide More Info For Developers

2012-09-07 Thread John Smith
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Joel Madero wrote: > Hi All, > > Came across this bug FDO#45570 and I've already nominated as a most annoying > bug but I think that devs might appreciate me getting some kind of a log or > something together for the crash. What type of log should I create and how >

[Libreoffice-qa] How Can I Provide More Info For Developers

2012-09-07 Thread Joel Madero
Hi All, Came across this bug FDO#45570 and I've already nominated as a most annoying bug but I think that devs might appreciate me getting some kind of a log or something together for the crash. What type of log should I create and how do I go about doing this (basic steps, my knowledge of termino

[Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice QA Call Metting Minutes 2012-09-07

2012-09-07 Thread Petr Mladek
Hi, Participants: Florian, Petr We had great chat but really missed the others. Please, try to join next time or say what is the blocker to join. pending action items: - write update scenario testcase in Litmus/MozTrap (Kendy) - Invite active bugwranglers to next call/QA list, CC Rainer (

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Triage Project Update

2012-09-07 Thread Joel Madero
Hi Nino, That's the beauty of our project, everyone's opinion is respected :) I'll try to avoid adding any work to website team and see what method works best to get these triaged and organized best. As of now, google doc + fdo seems to be doing the trick :) Ultimately might just make a macro to a

[Libreoffice-qa] Please Triage These (Bugs from 2011)

2012-09-07 Thread Joel Madero
There are 12 bugs from 2011 that haven't been triaged. I think they have been kind of ignored because they require certain things (such as Mac or UX input or advanced computer understanding :) ). Could someone(s) please get these done, then at least we're up to 2012 :) If you see one or more that y

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Regression test (Moztrap) test case localization temporary solution.

2012-09-07 Thread Yi Fan Jiang
Hi Petr, On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 12:16:30PM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote: > BTW: Is it possible to easily copy test case from one version to the > other using the UI? Or is there some alternative of "git cherry-pick" > where you could apply changes to other branches? Yes, the in-test-case version se

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Regression test (Moztrap) test case localization temporary solution.

2012-09-07 Thread Petr Mladek
Yi Fan Jiang píše v Pá 07. 09. 2012 v 02:44 -0600: > Hi Petr, all, > > On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 12:26:48PM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote: > > Yi Fan Jiang píše v Čt 06. 09. 2012 v 03:47 -0600: > > > >Yi Fan Jiang píše v Čt 06. 09. 2012 v 02:50 -0600: > > > >> 4. In the page, make sure the version of the

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Regression test (Moztrap) test case localization temporary solution.

2012-09-07 Thread Yi Fan Jiang
Hi Petr, all, On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 12:26:48PM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote: > Yi Fan Jiang píše v Čt 06. 09. 2012 v 03:47 -0600: > > >Yi Fan Jiang píše v Čt 06. 09. 2012 v 02:50 -0600: > > >> 4. In the page, make sure the version of the case is switched to > > *0* > > >> by: > > >> > > >> - Aro

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-09-07 Thread Stephan Bergmann
On 09/06/2012 06:55 PM, Michael Stahl wrote: On 06/09/12 17:42, Michael Meeks wrote: i don't have an opinion whether --enable-dbgutil should by default enable symbols or not. First of all, note that --enable-symbols is a misnomer. It is not per-se about any kind of symbols (like not stripping