Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Feedback page

2013-11-06 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 1:37 AM, Jochen Schiffers wrote: > Hi *, > > what is your opinion to integrate the following survey as 4st question [1]? > > [1] https://survey.documentfoundation.org/index.php/574531/lang-en What's the plan with the survey? Do we hope to keep it up for an extended period o

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Feedback page

2013-11-06 Thread Sophie
Le 06/11/2013 01:51, Robinson Tryon a écrit : > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Robinson Tryon > wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Thomas Hackert wrote: We currently have a link in the LibreOffice menus "Help -> Send Feedback" that currently points at the BSA and will point at t

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Checking for MAB 4.1 list

2013-11-06 Thread Sophie
Hi Robinson, Le 05/11/2013 20:06, Robinson Tryon a écrit : > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Sophie wrote: >>> What do people think about sticking some kind of tag in the Whiteboard >>> once this testing is done? Such as: >>> >>> Confirmed:4.1.3 >>> >>> Or perhaps OS would be useful: >>> >>> C

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Feedback page

2013-11-06 Thread Pedro
sophi wrote >> Done! Well, with the first draft, anyhow: >> http://testing.eagleeyet.net/~qubit/www-feedback/ >> >> Code is available here: >> https://github.com/colonelqubit/www-feedback >> >> Big kudos to Astron for the mockup code. > > Thanks for this work! +1 Well done! Still, if there is

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Feedback page

2013-11-06 Thread Thomas Hackert
Good morning Robinson, *, On Mittwoch, 6. November 2013 01:51 Robinson Tryon wrote: > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Robinson Tryon > wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Thomas Hackert >> wrote: We currently have a link in the LibreOffice menus "Help -> Send Feedback" that curren

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Checking for MAB 4.1 list

2013-11-06 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 3:21 AM, Sophie wrote: > Le 05/11/2013 20:06, Robinson Tryon a écrit : >> >> Here's a quick mockup of how the display might look: >> http://testing.eagleeyet.net/~qubit/mab-mockup/ >> >> It's running off of nonsense data for now, but it would be pretty easy >> to have it pul

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Feedback page

2013-11-06 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 3:20 AM, Sophie wrote: > Le 06/11/2013 01:51, Robinson Tryon a écrit : > > also there should be the ability to localize it (link and page) because > some of us do not use 'Ask', but lists or other forum, and most of us > will want it in its own language (it's part of the qua

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Where should users report bugs?

2013-11-06 Thread Thomas Hackert
Hello @gain, On Dienstag, 5. November 2013 20:35 Robinson Tryon wrote: > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Thomas Hackert > wrote: => What bugs should be reported to our LibreOffice bugtracker? => What bugs should be reported to distros? >> >> I would say only bugs, that are in our v

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Feedback page

2013-11-06 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 3:52 AM, Pedro wrote: > > Still, if there is a requirement for registration the wall is still there... There is a barrier, yes, but I think most people in the project are happy to have that requirement. > I would be interested in seeing statistics of number of people who c

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Where should users report bugs?

2013-11-06 Thread bjoern
Hi, IMHO: On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 08:46:36AM -0500, Robinson Tryon wrote: > => What bugs should be reported to our LibreOffice bugtracker? IMHO, all bugs. It provides much better visibility of the issues at hand. And yes, I even think bugs that 'happen only with the Ubuntu builds, but not with t

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Where should users report bugs?

2013-11-06 Thread Rob Snelders
For launchpad there is launchpadlib: https://help.launchpad.net/API/launchpadlib which allows scripting in Python. This could be using to e.g.: - find all bugs on launchpad against "LibreOffice (ubuntu)" - copy the bug description into a new bug on fdo - link both bugs: - mark the fdo bug a

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Where should users report bugs?

2013-11-06 Thread bjoern
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 04:54:17PM +0100, Rob Snelders wrote: > Python only? launchpadlib is a Pythonlib. Of course, you can create a small wrapper script around it and then use it from other stuff. Best, Bjoern ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing li

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Where should users report bugs?

2013-11-06 Thread Pedro
Hi Thomas Thomas Hackert wrote >> But providing a valid email should be enough for all >> that. It should not be required to create an account. > > But how will you know, if it is a valid mail address? It could be an > one-way mail address or some fake address ... :( Remember all the > HowTos

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Feedback page

2013-11-06 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:05 AM, Thomas Hackert wrote: > Good morning Robinson, *, > > Just a question: The text below "Create a bug report" > [...is redundant...] Ah yes, good catch :-) > Would it not be better to just > [...use better text like] > "Having a specific problem, like a software

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Where should users report bugs?

2013-11-06 Thread Sophie
Hi, Le 06/11/2013 17:08, Pedro a écrit : > Hi Thomas > > > Thomas Hackert wrote >>> But providing a valid email should be enough for all >>> that. It should not be required to create an account. >> >> But how will you know, if it is a valid mail address? It could be an >> one-way mail address or

[Libreoffice-qa] New requirements BSA

2013-11-06 Thread Rob Snelders
Hi All, I am busy with updating the BSA so it uses the XMLRPC-interface for getting information from Bugzilla in stead of interpeting the HTML-source. But to be able to build via the new scripts we need the perl-components XMLRPC::Lite and HTML::Template installed on kermit. Can this be insta

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Feedback page

2013-11-06 Thread Thomas Hackert
Hello Robinson, *, On Mittwoch, 6. November 2013 17:16 Robinson Tryon wrote: > On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:05 AM, Thomas Hackert > wrote: >> Just a question: The text below "Create a bug report" >> [...is redundant...] > > Ah yes, good catch :-) :) >> Would it not be better to just >> [...use bett

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Where should users report bugs?

2013-11-06 Thread Thomas Hackert
Hello Pedro, *, On Mittwoch, 6. November 2013 17:08 Pedro wrote: > Thomas Hackert wrote >>> But providing a valid email should be enough for all >>> that. It should not be required to create an account. >> >> But how will you know, if it is a valid mail address? It could be >> an one-way mail addr

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Where should users report bugs?

2013-11-06 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 10:14 AM, bjoern wrote: > On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 08:46:36AM -0500, Robinson Tryon wrote: >> => What bugs should be reported to our LibreOffice bugtracker? > > IMHO, all bugs. It provides much better visibility of the issues at hand. And > yes, I even think bugs that 'happen

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Where should users report bugs?

2013-11-06 Thread Rob Snelders
Hi, On 06-11-13 17:48, Thomas Hackert wrote: Hello Pedro, *, On Mittwoch, 6. November 2013 17:08 Pedro wrote: Thomas Hackert wrote But providing a valid email should be enough for all that. It should not be required to create an account. But how will you know, if it is a valid mail address?

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Where should users report bugs?

2013-11-06 Thread Pedro
Hi Rob Rob Snelders-2 wrote >>> Emails can be validated (in the same way your email client >>> immediately informs you that an address is not valid: it checks >>> with the target mail server) > > I have always learned to turn that feature off. So you can't verify a > mail-address against the ma

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Where should users report bugs?

2013-11-06 Thread Rob Snelders
On 06-11-13 19:08, Pedro wrote: Hi Rob Rob Snelders-2 wrote Emails can be validated (in the same way your email client immediately informs you that an address is not valid: it checks with the target mail server) I have always learned to turn that feature off. So you can't verify a mail-add

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Where should users report bugs?

2013-11-06 Thread bfoman
Pedro wrote > My experience is that I don't mind being contacted back if I report a bug > but I won't register into yet another site just to report a bug (unless I > start to use the bugged program regularly) Hi! Many bugs are reported by users who forgot about their reports. When asked to provide

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Where should users report bugs?

2013-11-06 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:58 PM, bfoman wrote: > Many bugs are reported by users who forgot about their reports. When asked > to provide more details (for instance by NEEDINFO mass mail) they [...] > don't use LO or care anymore. [...] > I do not think that we should babysit bug reports - already t

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Where should users report bugs?

2013-11-06 Thread Pedro
Rob Snelders-3 wrote > I think that a lot of hardcore users would be mad if you exclude them. I > wouldn't want that, as some of our developers are those users, I for > example wouldn't be able to work on the BSA anymore. So a big NO against > any such rule. We are discussing about a simplified

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Preparing for the next QA Call

2013-11-06 Thread Tommy
On Tue, 05 Nov 2013 05:12:15 +0100, Robinson Tryon wrote: Hi guys, We ran into some technical difficulties during this week's QA call, so before our next scheduled meeting, I'd like to do a test-run of our call/Hangout setup and iron-out any problems we find. TODOs include: - Review our Goo

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Preparing for the next QA Call

2013-11-06 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Tommy wrote: >> We ran into some technical difficulties during this week's QA call, so >> before our next scheduled meeting, I'd like to do a test-run of our >> call/Hangout setup and iron-out any problems we find. > > I had issue using Talkyoo with my regular phone

[Libreoffice-qa] Daily bibisect down?

2013-11-06 Thread Joel Madero
Hi All, Been getting this for the past couple weeks: failed on url http://people.canonical.com/~j-lallement/libreoffice/binrepo/bibisect-4.0.tar.lzma.zsync could not read control file from URL http://people.canonical.com/~j-lallement/libreoffice/binrepo/bibisect-4.0.tar.lzma.zsync Any thoug

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Checking for MAB 4.1 list

2013-11-06 Thread bfoman
sophi wrote > Just to let you know, I've taken this from the minute 'Every bug on the > MAB should be tested at least every minor release' > and I'm currently testing them against the last 4.1.3 (when I can, no > Mac or Windows at home) and commented the bugs. > Hope this helps. Hi. Hope this is a

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Where should users report bugs?

2013-11-06 Thread Pedro
bfoman wrote > I do not think that we should babysit bug reports - already there are a > lot of them in fdo, not mentioning other bug-trackers (novell, redhat), or > those on aoo issues system. Yes, there are too many bugs in fdo. Both because the project has very little QA people and also because

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Daily bibisect down?

2013-11-06 Thread bjoern
Please CC jibel[*] in such questions as otherwise we needlessly play chinese whispers ... Best, Bjoern [*] https://launchpad.net/~jibel On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 01:03:36PM -0800, Joel Madero wrote: > Hi All, > > Been getting this for the past couple weeks: > > failed on url > http://people.ca

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-website] New requirements BSA

2013-11-06 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Rob, Rob Snelders wrote on 2013-11-06 17:34: I am busy with updating the BSA so it uses the XMLRPC-interface for getting information from Bugzilla in stead of interpeting the HTML-source. thanks a lot for your work on this! But to be able to build via the new scripts we need the perl-com

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-website] New requirements BSA

2013-11-06 Thread Rob Snelders
Hi, I installed the following patches on my Ubuntu-machine: - libhtml-template-perl - libsoap-lite-perl Thanks, Rob Snelders Florian Effenberger schreef op 06-11-2013 23:53: Hi Rob, Rob Snelders wrote on 2013-11-06 17:34: I am busy with updating the BSA so it uses the XMLRPC-interface for g