Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Ubuntu Malware

2012-12-08 Thread arthur_torrey
Correct me if I'm wrong on this - all the stuff that I've seen thus far seems to say that the monitoring malware is part of the Unity Dash, not something that is internal to the entire Ubuntu universe. Thus if one is using Kubuntu, or even regular Ubuntu with some other window manager than Unit

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Ubuntu malware: what to do?

2012-12-08 Thread Ted Smith
The on/off button is badly implemented, too -- if you turn "online results" to "off," it prevents you from using the dash to search google docs and anything else on the Internet. On Sat, 2012-12-08 at 16:53 +0100, cryp...@nym.hush.com wrote: > Fyi this has been a big concern in the ubuntu communit

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Ubuntu malware: what to do?

2012-12-08 Thread John Sullivan
Fabian Rodriguez writes: > Hi, > > I just read this: > https://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do > > I made a French translation here: > http://www.fabianrodriguez.com/blog/2012/12/08/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do Thanks! Can you forward it to the French GNU Translation Team? -john

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Ubuntu malware: what to do?

2012-12-08 Thread Jason Self
While I'd love to see Canonical make changes [0] such that Ubuntu could be endorsed by the FSF I don't see that happening. Canonical never discusses the social/ethical/political issues of free software. Even if they did their actions of distributing proprietary, user-subjugating software would unde

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Ubuntu malware: what to do?

2012-12-08 Thread John Sullivan
Jay Cassano writes: > I'm going to go against the grain here slightly and argue that we > should redouble efforts to get this *out* of Ubuntu rather than > abandoning Ubuntu. Ubuntu is a key entry point for a lot of people > into the world of free software, even if they are not stalwart > defende

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Ubuntu malware: what to do?

2012-12-08 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
I agree with Jay, I started out with Ubuntu too.. But now I use Ubuntu with AwesomeWM (awesome.naquadah.org) not much of GNOME on my lappy.. -- Y On 8 December 2012 22:45, Jay Cassano wrote: > I'm going to go against the grain here slightly and argue that we should > redouble efforts to get this

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Ubuntu malware: what to do?

2012-12-08 Thread Jay Cassano
I'm going to go against the grain here slightly and argue that we should redouble efforts to get this *out* of Ubuntu rather than abandoning Ubuntu. Ubuntu is a key entry point for a lot of people into the world of free software, even if they are not stalwart defenders of it. I, for one, wouldn

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Ubuntu malware: what to do?

2012-12-08 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 The solution is simple. Don't use Ubuntu. Tell other people to not use Ubuntu, and explain why they shouldn't. When speaking about free software, don't speak of Ubuntu. Free software is about user freedom. If it doesn't properly respect your freedom

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Ubuntu malware: what to do?

2012-12-08 Thread Jason Self
Aviv de Morgan said: > sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping* Since it is installed and enabled by default that still amounts to an opt-out. To quote Fabian Rodriguez: > Please read the article, it mentions how useless and calculated > such "opt-out' schemes are. Even if you trust that they're

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Ubuntu malware: what to do?

2012-12-08 Thread Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak
Dnia sobota, 8 grudnia 2012 o 17:20:19 Alexander Stephen Thomas Ross napisał(a): > On 08/12/12 16:05, Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak wrote: > > Also, as long as we're naming and shaming Ubuntu, is Skype and > > Ekiga still both described in the Ubuntu Software Centre as > > "Free"? If so, this is a huge

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Ubuntu malware: what to do?

2012-12-08 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
Yea, what's up with Ekiga? -- Y On 8 December 2012 21:50, Alexander Stephen Thomas Ross wrote: > What! What’s the problem with Ekiga? What have I missed?

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Ubuntu malware: what to do?

2012-12-08 Thread Aviv de Morgan
A quick solution has been offered here : * sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping* Still, it does not resolve the ethical problem related to the notion of Free Software, badly interpreted by Canonical. Cheers, Av

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Ubuntu malware: what to do?

2012-12-08 Thread Alexander Stephen Thomas Ross
On 08/12/12 16:05, Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak wrote: Also, as long as we're naming and shaming Ubuntu, is Skype and Ekiga still both described in the Ubuntu Software Centre as "Free"? If so, this is a huge problem. What! What’s the problem with Ekiga? What have I missed?

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Ubuntu malware: what to do?

2012-12-08 Thread Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak
Dnia sobota, 8 grudnia 2012 o 17:02:05 Fabian Rodriguez napisał(a): > Le 12-12-08 10:53 AM, cryp...@nym.hush.com a écrit : > > Fyi this has been a big concern in the ubuntu community. thus a > > off/on > > button has been added to the privacy panel. but it is on by default > :/ > > > the ubuntufr

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Ubuntu malware: what to do?

2012-12-08 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 12-12-08 10:53 AM, cryp...@nym.hush.com a écrit : > > Fyi this has been a big concern in the ubuntu community. thus a off/on button has been added to the privacy panel. but it is on by default :/ > > the ubuntufr community worked on this issue and

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Ubuntu malware: what to do?

2012-12-08 Thread cryptie
Fyi this has been a big concern in the ubuntu community. thus a off/on button has been added to the privacy panel. but it is on by default :/ the ubuntufr community worked on this issue and proposed a panel to chose whether you want it or not at the first use (for each user). I think it is only

[libreplanet-discuss] Ubuntu malware: what to do?

2012-12-08 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I just read this: https://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do I made a French translation here: http://www.fabianrodriguez.com/blog/2012/12/08/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do Cheers, Fabian Rodriguez http://fsf.magicfab.ca -BEGIN PG