[libreplanet-discuss] Weekend weather

2015-03-18 Thread Kete Foy
It sounds like people arriving Friday may avoid slushy highways, but what will they be like on Monday morning after all of the snow or ice that's supposed to fall Friday night and this weekend?

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Lightning talks?

2015-03-18 Thread NIIBE Yutaka
Hello, Noah, Brendan, and friends, Thank you for your kindness. I'm writing this at NRT Airport. On 03/19/2015 04:48 AM, Noah Vesely wrote: > It seems nobody responded to you on this, but if you have already (or > when) you have figured this out, please let us know the time(s) you will > be givn

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Amusing Free Software Story

2015-03-18 Thread Aaron Wolf
Libre is indeed perfectly fine as long as it gets over the one burden of becoming acceptable for English. But note that "FLOSS" is lousy while "FLO" is fine. And that's why Snowdrift.coop has embraced "FLO" because we're not strictly about software anyway. The simple fact is, unless we could m

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Amusing Free Software Story

2015-03-18 Thread Logan Streondj
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 11:18:19AM -0500, m...@picaflor-azul.com wrote: > Hello, > > >And I am not saying we should not use "libre" -- au contraire! But > >IMVHO we > >should definitely not say "the term free is lost, too many people > >use it in > >the wrong sense". > > I've thought about this q

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Amusing Free Software Story

2015-03-18 Thread Will Hill
Excellent. "Free software" works just fine. Brand flipping is a loss. It gains no new adherents and confuses the people drifting at the edges who you might have mobilized. It would be foolish to dropping the term "free software" because the bullies have mounted a propaganda campaign against i

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Why contains in nonfree that's not ethical?

2015-03-18 Thread Will Hill
I talk a little about running Virtual Box in my x61s write up. http://50.80.140.55/photo_album/chron/desktop/thinkpad/x61s.html I've only seen Qemu run on an Elive CD, and it was awesome, but I don't know how to run it myself. Virtual Box is click and drool easy now. I don't think you will g

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Lightning talks?

2015-03-18 Thread Brendan Kidwell
Ah, well, I see you there at least. Hopefully everyone else that needs to will find the wiki page or this thread. On Wed, Mar 18, 2015, at 19:17, Brendan Kidwell wrote: > You can use this wiki page > https://libreplanet.org/wiki/LibrePlanet:Conference/2015/Lightning_Talks > to register yourself in

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Lightning talks?

2015-03-18 Thread Brendan Kidwell
Yutaka, I'm sorry no one has replied with this info yet. If you didn't notice it on your own yet, please see the conference schedule at this URL: https://libreplanet.org/2015/program/grid-schedule.html . Lighting talk sessions are in the first two non-plenary sessions on Saturday. You can use th

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Amusing Free Software Story

2015-03-18 Thread Aaron Wolf
Well, there's one thing that's factually clear already: "Free" and "Open" both had lots of uses *before* anyone tried to apply them strictly to ideals about software and licensing etc. — "Libre" is fundamentally a more precise term that has only ever been used in the manner we intend. In other w

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Amusing Free Software Story

2015-03-18 Thread rysiek
Dnia środa, 18 marca 2015 09:00:18 Aaron Wolf pisze: > > As soon as "libre" will start to be recognizable at large, "libre-washing" > > *will* start. Partly due to misunderstanding of the term, partly due to > > conscious manipulation of people/organisations trying to profit from it > > without rea

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Lightning talks?

2015-03-18 Thread Noah Vesely
Hi Niibe, It seems nobody responded to you on this, but if you have already (or when) you have figured this out, please let us know the time(s) you will be givng your lightning talk(s). I am very interested in your work and seeing you present! Noah NIIBE Yutaka: > Hello, > > I will join LibrePl

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Amusing Free Software Story

2015-03-18 Thread mark
Hello, And I am not saying we should not use "libre" -- au contraire! But IMVHO we should definitely not say "the term free is lost, too many people use it in the wrong sense". I've thought about this quite a bit. I really like the term Libre Software. Being pretty fluent in Spanish it imme

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Why contains in nonfree that's not ethical?

2015-03-18 Thread Adam Bolte
On 19/03/15 02:14, Michael Siepmann wrote: > Thanks. Your thoughts led me to the idea of trying Wine in a > virtualized instance of GNU/Linux, so any Windows applications would be > sandboxed and not have access to my physical computer. (I see at > http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-f566a12c806a1eac

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Amusing Free Software Story

2015-03-18 Thread Aaron Wolf
> As soon as "libre" will start to be recognizable at large, "libre-washing" > *will* start. Partly due to misunderstanding of the term, partly due to > conscious manipulation of people/organisations trying to profit from it > without really heeding its values. > > And I am not saying we shoul

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Amusing Free Software Story

2015-03-18 Thread Aaron Wolf
> Looking beyond software, The Free Culture movement associated with > Lawrence Lessig prides itself on having created an ecosystem where > people can decide what freedom means to them and use any Creative > Commons licence (including non-libre licences such as those with NC > and ND terms). > I

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Why contains in nonfree that's not ethical?

2015-03-18 Thread Michael Siepmann
Thanks. Your thoughts led me to the idea of trying Wine in a virtualized instance of GNU/Linux, so any Windows applications would be sandboxed and not have access to my physical computer. (I see at http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-f566a12c806a1eacaeefb7cb6419a513a773c571 that there are also other

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Truly decentralized/federated software development platforms?

2015-03-18 Thread Miles Fidelman
streo...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 03:07:38AM +0100, rysiek wrote: Hi there, the Gitlab/Gitorius situation rekindled my interest in what I would call the "next step" in software development management -- a truly decentralised/federated platform. Next step would b

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Amusing Free Software Story

2015-03-18 Thread klez
I'm pretty sure that's what the term "libre" is for. Il 17 marzo 2015 20:13:46 CET, Patrick Anderson ha scritto: >> It boggles my mind that >> these simple and so important ideas about software and freedom, which >are so >> obvious to me, are so far out of the reach of so many people. > >It boggl

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Truly decentralized/federated software development platforms?

2015-03-18 Thread streondj
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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Amusing Free Software Story

2015-03-18 Thread rysiek
Dnia wtorek, 17 marca 2015 22:50:21 Aaron Wolf pisze: > I'm sorry, but it's ok to take a stand for "free software" only in the > context that you want to go about explaining it — which we *should* > want to do, but can't always be done. > > "Open" has always been an inadequate term from the beginn

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Amusing Free Software Story

2015-03-18 Thread Mimmo D.DN
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 17/03/2015 20:13, Patrick Anderson wrote: > It boggles my mind that we refuse to acknowledge most people *already* > understand the term "Free Software" to mean "Freeware". > > Why are we so damn stubborn about such an unimportant detail that > a

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Amusing Free Software Story

2015-03-18 Thread Kim Tucker
I'd go with libre: http://wikieducator.org/Say_Libre and work towards keeping it unambiguous: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libre_%28word%29 Looking beyond software, The Free Culture movement associated with Lawrence Lessig prides itself on having created an ecosystem where people can decide wh