Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Reverse Engineering

2016-02-05 Thread Koz Ross
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 With respect to Libreboot, no amount of reverse engineering will help - the Intel ME is cryptographically signed, and no replacement we make will ever run, full stop, unless Intel gives us the signing keys. While I admire your desire to help, it's im

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] libreplanet-discuss Digest, Vol 71, Issue 6

2016-02-05 Thread Mike Gerwitz
On Fri, Feb 05, 2016 at 09:52:35 -0500, Mike C wrote: > Wait isn't there a way to setup libreoffice in server mode and use it > through a webbrowser? Why wouldn't someone do that if they wanted > access to documents over the internet? If you are accessing your own LibreOffice instance---or one und

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Reverse Engineering

2016-02-05 Thread Esteban Enrique
I am new to the free software community, but one of the things I am most interested in right now is reverse engineering. As you know, companies like Intel are unwilling to release schematics which would allow free software developers to write free microcode for processors. As RMS pointed out at Lib

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Buying the rights to proprietary programs to free them

2016-02-05 Thread Koz Ross
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 15:21:27 -0800 Erik Moeller wrote: > 2016-02-05 7:43 GMT-08:00 Fabio Pesari : > > Yes, I totally forgot about Blender! Or it subconsciously prompted > > me to start this thread; in either case, Blender is arguably one of > > the

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Updating the High Priority List

2016-02-05 Thread arthur_torrey
The thing I've been grumbling about almost since I started using Free Software all to many years ago is the lack of a competent 3-D CAD package LibreCAD is OK for 2D, and it is being actively maintained and worked on, but it is ONLY a 2-D package, and a lot of people look at you like you ar

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Buying the rights to proprietary programs to free them

2016-02-05 Thread Erik Moeller
2016-02-05 7:43 GMT-08:00 Fabio Pesari : > Yes, I totally forgot about Blender! Or it subconsciously prompted me to > start this thread; in either case, Blender is arguably one of the best > free programs around (in several categories) and proof that this > approach can offer quality software prett

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Buying the rights to proprietary programs to free them

2016-02-05 Thread Fabio Pesari
On 02/05/2016 04:22 PM, J.B. Nicholson wrote: > > I believe this has been done before. According to > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blender_(software)#History Blender, the free > rendering/editing program, was originally developed at Neo Geo and used > internally, then later distributed as propr

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Buying the rights to proprietary programs to free them

2016-02-05 Thread Fabio Pesari
On 02/05/2016 02:10 PM, Fabian Rodriguez wrote: > > product go. I lack the time to elaborate at the moment but this is > certainly something we already have all the pieces around for, just not > clearly or actively proposed to proprietary software companies that I > know of. Livecode indeed mak

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] libreplanet-discuss Digest, Vol 71, Issue 6

2016-02-05 Thread Isaac David
Le ven. 5 févr. 2016 à 8:52, Mike C a écrit : Wait isn't there a way to setup libreoffice in server mode and use it through a webbrowser? Yes, through the GTK+ Broadway backend, but the code isn't quite stable AFAIK. Moreover there are true web free software applications with collaborative e

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Buying the rights to proprietary programs to free them

2016-02-05 Thread J.B. Nicholson
Fabio Pesari wrote: We hear about companies like Facebook and Google buying out startups all the time and I thought, why don't we use crowdfunding to buy the rights to proprietary programs ourselves and release their code under the GPL? (Of course, we have to be sure all their dependencies are al

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] libreplanet-discuss Digest, Vol 71, Issue 6

2016-02-05 Thread Mike C
Wait isn't there a way to setup libreoffice in server mode and use it through a webbrowser? Why wouldn't someone do that if they wanted access to documents over the internet?From: John Sullivan Date: Fri Feb 05 2

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] libreplanet-discuss Digest, Vol 71, Issue 6

2016-02-05 Thread John Sullivan
Mike Gerwitz writes: > On Thu, Feb 04, 2016 at 22:24:57 -0500, John Sullivan wrote: >> AFAIK, Google Docs works with JavaScript disabled. > > I get this error, without the document loading: > > "JavaScript isn't enabled in your browser, so this file can't be > opened. Enable and reload." > >

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Teaching programming

2016-02-05 Thread Julien Kyou
On 02/03/2016 01:52 PM, Mike Gerwitz wrote: > On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 11:24:25 -0500, Harry Prevor wrote: >> For the record, this has never been true. I wrote a program a >> long time ago that allows you to download Google Docs in the free >> ODT format; the script seems to have been lost but the

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Buying the rights to proprietary programs to free them

2016-02-05 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
Le 2016-02-05 05:25, Fabio Pesari a écrit : Can this be done? I know of at least one succesful big project that went that way. We may learn a lot from this: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-livecode At the time I was providing commercial support for thi

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Buying the rights to proprietary programs to free them

2016-02-05 Thread Fabio Pesari
On 02/05/2016 11:34 AM, Koz Ross wrote: > > I believe that *theoretically* this is possible - assuming whoever it > is is willing to sell under those conditions. It'd certainly be > something I'd support - financially if needs be - especially if we're > also releasing the assets behind the software

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Buying the rights to proprietary programs to free them

2016-02-05 Thread Koz Ross
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 11:25:37 +0100 Fabio Pesari wrote: > We hear about companies like Facebook and Google buying out startups > all the time and I thought, why don't we use crowdfunding to buy the > rights to proprietary programs ourselves and relea

[libreplanet-discuss] Buying the rights to proprietary programs to free them

2016-02-05 Thread Fabio Pesari
We hear about companies like Facebook and Google buying out startups all the time and I thought, why don't we use crowdfunding to buy the rights to proprietary programs ourselves and release their code under the GPL? (Of course, we have to be sure all their dependencies are also free). New program

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] libreplanet-discuss Digest, Vol 71, Issue 6

2016-02-05 Thread Fabio Pesari
On 02/05/2016 05:20 AM, Mike Gerwitz wrote: > > I get this error, without the document loading: > > "JavaScript isn't enabled in your browser, so this file can't be > opened. Enable and reload." > > Even so, Google Docs is foremost the worst of both worlds: a proprietary > web application and